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6 Apr 2010 11:23 |
Hi. Iam related to William Astley bn 1886 in Heskin, parents are Richard and Martha. his siblings are Ellen, Rachel, Thomas, James. they lived on Walmsley Farm, Heskin, Nr. Chorley. William married Alice Moss, he was an insurance agent, they lived in 1911 Grove Crescent, Eccleston Chorley. William died 1957 in Newton Le Willows aged 72. he was my father. Has anyone got any info on this family. thank you
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PollyPoppet
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6 Apr 2010 11:30 |
Hi 1901 census Address Walmsleys Civil Parish Heskin Rural District Chorley Town or Village or Hamlet Heskin Ecclesiastical Parish St James Wrightington Parliamentary Borough or Division Chorley Division Of N Lancashire County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Administrative County Lancashire Householder 1 Name Ellen Astley Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 17 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Farm Domestic Employment Status Where Born Lancs Heskin Language Infirmity Householder 2 Name James A Astley Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Age Last Birthday 9 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Lancs Heskin Language Infirmity Householder 3 Name Rachel Astley Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Age Last Birthday 13 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Weavers Minder Employment Status Where Born Lancs Heskin Language Infirmity Householder 4 Name Richard Astley Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Widower Age Last Birthday 41 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Farmer Employment Status Where Born Lancs Heskin Language Infirmity Householder 5 Name William Astley Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Age Last Birthday 15 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Pony Driver Under Ground Employment Status Where Born Lancs Heskin Language Infirmity
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Catherine
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6 Apr 2010 11:32 |
1901 Name: William Astley Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relation: Son Father's Name: Richard Gender: Male Where born: Heskin, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Heskin Ecclesiastical parish: Wrightington St James Town: Heskin County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Registration district: Chorley Sub-registration district: Croston ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Richard Astley 41 Ellen Astley 17 William Astley 15 Rachel Astley 13 James H Astley 9
but what exactly are you looking for?
1891 Name: William Astley Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relation: Son Father's Name: Richard Mother's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Heskin, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Heskin Ecclesiastical parish: Wrightington St James Town: Heskin County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Registration district: Chorley Sub-registration district: Croston ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Richard Astley 31 born: Heskin, Lancashire Martha Astley 29 born: Heskin, Lancashire Ellen Astley 7 William Astley 5 Rachel Astley 3 Thomas Astley 1
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Catherine
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6 Apr 2010 11:36 |
Possible marriage:- Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%) <<<<ASTLEY Richard Wigan 8c 99 Baybut Sarah Alice Wigan 8c 99 Beybut Sarah Alice Wigan 8c 99 Beyer Matilda Alice Wigan 8c 99 <<<<Edmondson Martha Wigan 8c 99 SMITH John Wigan 8c 99
birth cert. of one of the children will confirm this!
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Catherine
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6 Apr 2010 11:38 |
1871 for Richard?
Name: Richard Astley Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Heskin, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Heskin Ecclesiastical parish: Wrightlington St James County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Chorley Sub-registration district: Croston ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Henry Ainscough 49 born: Charnock Richard, Lancashire Margaret Ainscough 48 born: Chorley, Lancashire Richard Astley 11 Ellen Ainscough 6 Henry Ainscough 3 Eliza Mc Kenzie 61
possible marriage for this couple:- Marriages Sep 1869 (>99%) xxxxAINSCOUGH Henry Chorley 8e 624 Heyes Maria Chorley 8e 624 xxxxHINDLEY Margaret Chorley 8e 624 Ince John Chorley 8e 624
so Richard is noted as "Son"! This could mean that he is the son of Margaret, to a first marriage or her illegitimate son..........however, as Henry Ainscough was living next door to the Astley family I would suspect that he is the father and Richard is his illegitimate son. To be sure though you will need the birth cert.:-
Births Jun 1859 (>99%) Astley Richard Chorley 8e 418
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Catherine
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6 Apr 2010 11:39 |
1861 for Richard?
Name: Richard Astley Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Grandson Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Heskin, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Heskin Ecclesiastical parish: Eccleston County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Chorley Sub-registration district: Croston ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 71 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Astley 66 - 1795 born: Heskin, Lancashire (Farmer) - Widow Ellen Astley 30 born: Heskin, Lancashire William Astley 8 Richard Astley 1
living next door:- Eleanor Ainscough abt 1777 Dalton, Lancashire, England Wife Heskin, Lancashire Robert Ainscough abt 1783 Heskin, Lancashire, England Head Heskin, Lancashire Henry Ainscough abt 1825 Charnock Richard, Lancashire, England Son Heskin, Lancashire
Two possible deaths for Alice:- Deaths Mar 1853 (99%) ASTLEY Alice Chorley 8e 309
Deaths Dec 1856 (>99%) ASTLEY Alice Chorley 8e 230
William Astley (from above census) would seem to be the illegitimate son of Ellen Astley:-
WILLIAM ASTLEY Male Event(s): Christening: 21 AUG 1853 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England Death: 06 JAN 1866 Parents: Mother: ELLEN ASTLEY
I would think that Richard is also her son.
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Catherine
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6 Apr 2010 11:49 |
1851 for Benjamin?
Name: Benjamin Astley Age: 56 Estimated birth year: abt 1795 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Heskin, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Heskin County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Farmer Registration district: Chorley Sub-registration district: Chorley ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 34 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Astley 56 Alice Astley 57 born: Rainford, Lancashire
1841 Name: Benjamin Astley Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1793 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Eccleston Hundred: Leyland County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Farmer Registration district: Chorley Sub-registration district: Croston Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Astley 48 Alice Astley 45 William Astley 15 Ellen Astley 1 (age is 11yrs not 1yr.) Rachael Astley 9 Elizabeth Astley 4 Mo
ELLEN ASTLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 20 JUN 1830 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England (same parents) RACHAEL ASTLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 04 NOV 1832 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England Father: BENJAMIN ASTLEY Mother: ELLEN
2nd Marriage:- BENJAMIN ASTLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: 25 AUG 1828 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England Spouse: ELLEN WOODCOCK
1st marriage:- BENJAMIN ASTLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: 16 AUG 1820 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England Spouse: ELIZABETH WARING
(who I suspect being the mother of William, aged 15yrs.)
ELIZABETH ASTLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 28 FEB 1841 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England Father: BENJAMIN ASTLEY Mother: ALICE
so Ellen died some time between 1832 and 1841 and Benjamin married Alice ? Can't see a marriage to Alice, but the birth cert. of Elizabeth will give you her maiden name!
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Catherine
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6 Apr 2010 12:24 |
Birth of Benjamin Astley:-
BENJAMIN ASTLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 25 JAN 1795 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England Father: WILLIAM Mother: ANN ASTLEY (Submitted entry)
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lancashireAnn
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6 Apr 2010 14:04 |
william's baptism
Baptisms: 9 May 1886 St James the Great, Wrightington, Lancashire, England William Astley - Child of Richard Astley & Martha Born: 29 Mar 1886 Abode: Heskin Occupation: Shoe Maker Baptised by: J.T. Wilson Register: Baptisms 1857 - 1921, Page 91, Entry 724 Source: LDS Film 1849640
other birth rec showing mmn
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1885 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference ASTLEY Thomas Croston Preston EDMONDSON CRO/17/11
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1888 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference ASTLEY Rachel Croston Preston EDMONDSON CRO/17/99
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1890 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference ASTLEY Thomas Croston Preston EDMONDSON CRO/18/81
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1893 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference ASTLEY Benjamin Croston Preston EDMONDSON
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lancashireAnn
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6 Apr 2010 14:04 |
Richard & martha's marriage - Note Richard's father's name.....
Marriage: 16 Jun 1883 St James the Great, Wrightington, Lancashire, England Richard Astley - 24 Shoe Maker Bachelor of Heskin Martha Edmondson - 21 Spinster of Wrightington Groom's Father: Henry Ainscough, Farmer Bride's Father: Thomas Edmondson, Farmer Witness: Henry Ainscough; Dinah Edmondson Married by Banns by: John K. Marsden B.A. Curate of St. Luke's Church Southport Register: Marriages 1873 - 1921, Page 29, Entry 57 Source: LDS Film 1849640
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lancashireAnn
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6 Apr 2010 14:07 |
so possible baptism of Richard
Baptisms: 8 May 1859 St James the Great, Wrightington, Lancashire, England Richard Astley - Son of Ellen Astley Abode: Heskin Occupation: Single Woman Baptised by: J. Johnson Register: Baptisms 1857 - 1921, Page 4, Entry 31 Source: LDS Film 1849640
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lancashireAnn
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6 Apr 2010 14:10 |
if you use the sites
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
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lancashirebmd.org.uk
you will find quite a lot about the family
on births for the Chorley area the mothers maiden name is always shown which is useful
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lancashireAnn
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6 Apr 2010 14:15 |
lancsbmd show Henry s of Henry Ainscoughmother was indeed an Astley - though not Margaret
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1867 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference AINSCOUGH Henry Croston Preston ASTLEY
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1863 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference AINSCOUGH Henry ASTLEY Ellen Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1869 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference AINSCOUGH Henry HINDLEY Margaret St George, Chorley
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Carol
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12 Apr 2010 13:42 |
Thank you very much for all your help,
Carol
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