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William Astley

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Carol

Carol Report 6 Apr 2010 11:23

Hi. Iam related to William Astley bn 1886 in Heskin, parents are Richard and Martha. his siblings are Ellen, Rachel, Thomas, James. they lived on Walmsley Farm, Heskin, Nr. Chorley.
William married Alice Moss, he was an insurance agent, they lived in 1911 Grove Crescent, Eccleston Chorley. William died 1957 in Newton Le Willows aged 72. he was my father. Has anyone got any info on this family. thank you

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 6 Apr 2010 11:30

Hi
1901 census

Address Walmsleys
Civil Parish Heskin
Rural District Chorley
Town or Village or Hamlet Heskin
Ecclesiastical Parish St James Wrightington
Parliamentary Borough or Division Chorley Division Of N Lancashire
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Lancashire
Householder 1
Name Ellen Astley
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 17
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Farm Domestic
Employment Status
Where Born Lancs Heskin
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name James A Astley
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 9
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Lancs Heskin
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Rachel Astley
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 13
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Weavers Minder
Employment Status
Where Born Lancs Heskin
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Richard Astley
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Widower
Age Last Birthday 41
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Farmer
Employment Status
Where Born Lancs Heskin
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name William Astley
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 15
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Pony Driver Under Ground
Employment Status
Where Born Lancs Heskin
Language
Infirmity

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Apr 2010 11:32

1901
Name: William Astley
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard
Gender: Male
Where born: Heskin, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Heskin
Ecclesiastical parish: Wrightington St James
Town: Heskin
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Croston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Astley 41
Ellen Astley 17
William Astley 15
Rachel Astley 13
James H Astley 9

but what exactly are you looking for?

1891
Name: William Astley
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Heskin, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Heskin
Ecclesiastical parish: Wrightington St James
Town: Heskin
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Croston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Astley 31 born: Heskin, Lancashire
Martha Astley 29 born: Heskin, Lancashire
Ellen Astley 7
William Astley 5
Rachel Astley 3
Thomas Astley 1

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Apr 2010 11:36

Possible marriage:-
Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
<<<<ASTLEY Richard Wigan 8c 99
Baybut Sarah Alice Wigan 8c 99
Beybut Sarah Alice Wigan 8c 99
Beyer Matilda Alice Wigan 8c 99
<<<<Edmondson Martha Wigan 8c 99
SMITH John Wigan 8c 99

birth cert. of one of the children will confirm this!

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Apr 2010 11:38

1871 for Richard?

Name: Richard Astley
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Heskin, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Heskin
Ecclesiastical parish: Wrightlington St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Croston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Ainscough 49 born: Charnock Richard, Lancashire
Margaret Ainscough 48 born: Chorley, Lancashire
Richard Astley 11
Ellen Ainscough 6
Henry Ainscough 3
Eliza Mc Kenzie 61


possible marriage for this couple:-
Marriages Sep 1869 (>99%)
xxxxAINSCOUGH Henry Chorley 8e 624
Heyes Maria Chorley 8e 624
xxxxHINDLEY Margaret Chorley 8e 624
Ince John Chorley 8e 624


so Richard is noted as "Son"!
This could mean that he is the son of Margaret, to a first marriage or her illegitimate son..........however, as Henry Ainscough was living next door to the Astley family I would suspect that he is the father and Richard is his illegitimate son. To be sure though you will need the birth cert.:-

Births Jun 1859 (>99%)
Astley Richard Chorley 8e 418

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Apr 2010 11:39

1861 for Richard?

Name: Richard Astley
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Heskin, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Heskin
Ecclesiastical parish: Eccleston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Croston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Astley 66 - 1795 born: Heskin, Lancashire (Farmer) - Widow
Ellen Astley 30 born: Heskin, Lancashire
William Astley 8
Richard Astley 1


living next door:-
Eleanor Ainscough abt 1777 Dalton, Lancashire, England Wife Heskin, Lancashire
Robert Ainscough abt 1783 Heskin, Lancashire, England Head Heskin, Lancashire
Henry Ainscough abt 1825 Charnock Richard, Lancashire, England Son Heskin, Lancashire


Two possible deaths for Alice:-
Deaths Mar 1853 (99%)
ASTLEY Alice Chorley 8e 309

Deaths Dec 1856 (>99%)
ASTLEY Alice Chorley 8e 230


William Astley (from above census) would seem to be the illegitimate son of Ellen Astley:-

WILLIAM ASTLEY
Male
Event(s):
Christening: 21 AUG 1853 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England
Death: 06 JAN 1866

Parents: Mother: ELLEN ASTLEY

I would think that Richard is also her son.

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Apr 2010 11:49

1851 for Benjamin?

Name: Benjamin Astley
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1795
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Heskin, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Heskin
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Farmer

Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Chorley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Astley 56
Alice Astley 57 born: Rainford, Lancashire


1841
Name: Benjamin Astley
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1793
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Eccleston
Hundred: Leyland
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Farmer

Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Croston
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Astley 48
Alice Astley 45
William Astley 15
Ellen Astley 1 (age is 11yrs not 1yr.)
Rachael Astley 9
Elizabeth Astley 4 Mo

ELLEN ASTLEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 JUN 1830 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England
(same parents)
RACHAEL ASTLEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 04 NOV 1832 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England
Father: BENJAMIN ASTLEY
Mother: ELLEN

2nd Marriage:-
BENJAMIN ASTLEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 25 AUG 1828 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England
Spouse: ELLEN WOODCOCK

1st marriage:-
BENJAMIN ASTLEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 16 AUG 1820 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England
Spouse: ELIZABETH WARING

(who I suspect being the mother of William, aged 15yrs.)


ELIZABETH ASTLEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 FEB 1841 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England
Father: BENJAMIN ASTLEY
Mother: ALICE

so Ellen died some time between 1832 and 1841 and Benjamin married Alice ?
Can't see a marriage to Alice, but the birth cert. of Elizabeth will give you her maiden name!

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Apr 2010 12:24

Birth of Benjamin Astley:-

BENJAMIN ASTLEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 JAN 1795 Eccleston By Chorley, Lancashire, England
Father: WILLIAM
Mother: ANN ASTLEY
(Submitted entry)

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 6 Apr 2010 14:04

william's baptism

Baptisms: 9 May 1886 St James the Great, Wrightington, Lancashire, England
William Astley - Child of Richard Astley & Martha
Born: 29 Mar 1886
Abode: Heskin
Occupation: Shoe Maker
Baptised by: J.T. Wilson
Register: Baptisms 1857 - 1921, Page 91, Entry 724
Source: LDS Film 1849640

other birth rec showing mmn

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1885
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ASTLEY Thomas Croston Preston EDMONDSON CRO/17/11

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1888
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ASTLEY Rachel Croston Preston EDMONDSON CRO/17/99

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1890
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ASTLEY Thomas Croston Preston EDMONDSON CRO/18/81

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1893
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ASTLEY Benjamin Croston Preston EDMONDSON

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 6 Apr 2010 14:04

Richard & martha's marriage - Note Richard's father's name.....

Marriage: 16 Jun 1883 St James the Great, Wrightington, Lancashire, England
Richard Astley - 24 Shoe Maker Bachelor of Heskin
Martha Edmondson - 21 Spinster of Wrightington
Groom's Father: Henry Ainscough, Farmer
Bride's Father: Thomas Edmondson, Farmer
Witness: Henry Ainscough; Dinah Edmondson
Married by Banns by: John K. Marsden B.A. Curate of St. Luke's Church Southport
Register: Marriages 1873 - 1921, Page 29, Entry 57
Source: LDS Film 1849640

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 6 Apr 2010 14:07

so possible baptism of Richard

Baptisms: 8 May 1859 St James the Great, Wrightington, Lancashire, England
Richard Astley - Son of Ellen Astley
Abode: Heskin
Occupation: Single Woman
Baptised by: J. Johnson
Register: Baptisms 1857 - 1921, Page 4, Entry 31
Source: LDS Film 1849640

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 6 Apr 2010 14:10

if you use the sites

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

and

lancashirebmd.org.uk

you will find quite a lot about the family

on births for the Chorley area the mothers maiden name is always shown which is useful

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 6 Apr 2010 14:15

lancsbmd show Henry s of Henry Ainscoughmother was indeed an Astley - though not Margaret

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1867
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
AINSCOUGH Henry Croston Preston ASTLEY

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1863
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
AINSCOUGH Henry ASTLEY Ellen Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1869
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
AINSCOUGH Henry HINDLEY Margaret St George, Chorley

Carol

Carol Report 12 Apr 2010 13:42

Thank you very much for all your help,

Carol