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Maragret Jane

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Ann

Ann Report 12 Apr 2010 06:46

Anybody out there got any more info regarding Maragret Jane Jones. Her father was Elias Jones. I think Maragret had 3 sisters whose names might have been Gwen, Sarah and Catherine.
Thanks Ann

Quoy

Quoy Report 12 Apr 2010 06:53

Hi Ann
have you any dates

Hilary

Hilary Report 12 Apr 2010 06:57

Is this her on Family Search
Margaret Jane Jones, christened 24th April 1870 Yspytty Cynfyn, Cardigan, Wales. Father Elias Jones, Mother Catherine.
Hilary

Catherine

Catherine Report 12 Apr 2010 08:26

Could this be her?

1891
Name: Margaret G Jones
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Elias
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Cwmpark, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Ystradyfodwg
Ecclesiastical parish: Pontypridd St Catherine
Town: Middle
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: 30 Greenfield Road

Occupation: (father - Coal Miner)

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Elias Jones 30 - born: Blaina, Monmouthshire
Margaret Jones 30 - born: Aberdare, Glamorgan
Margaret G Jones 9
Sarah Jones 7 - born: Cwmpark, Glamorgan
Gwen Jones 5 - born: Cwmpark, Glamorgan
Catherine Jones 2 - born: Cwmpark, Glamorgan
Margaret Williams 72 - Mother in Law :- born: Ystraddyfodwg (Ystradyfodwg), Glamorgan

Hilary

Hilary Report 12 Apr 2010 12:46

There is a Margaret Jones with father Elias & mother Catherine on 1881 census, Family Search. Says they were born in Caernarvon, Wales but unless Ann gets back to her thread it is all guess work.
Hilary.

Catherine

Catherine Report 13 Apr 2010 14:49

pm from Ann:-

Hi Catherine.Thanks for the info, could well be a family member, my mum can't really remember much, but these names ring a bell, do you have any other info, I am in Aussie.
Thanks a million, et very excited as I have been doing research for about 4 yrs and found nothing and being on threads has been very helpful already.
Cheers Ann

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 13 Apr 2010 15:12

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1901 census transcription details for: 20, Park Road, Ystradyfodwg

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 5013 Folio: 134 Page: 10


Reg. District: Pontypridd Sub District: Ystradyfodwg
Parish: Ystradyfodwg Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District: Cwmpark St George City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 20, Park Road, Ystradyfodwg
County: Glamorganshire
JONES, Elias Head Married M 40 1861 Colliery Checkwing Above Ground
Blaina
Monmouthshire
JONES, Margaret Wife Married F 40 1861
Aberdare
Glamorganshire
JONES, Margaret Jane Daughter Single F 19 1882
Ystradyfodwg
Glamorganshire
JONES, Sarah Daughter Single F 17 1884
Ystradyfodwg
Glamorganshire
JONES, Gwen Daughter Single F 15 1886
Ystradyfodwg
Glamorganshire
JONES, Catherine Daughter F 11 1890
Ystradyfodwg
Glamorganshire
JONES, Robert Son M 8 1893
Ystradyfodwg
Glamorganshire
JONES, Mary Ann Daughter F 4 1897
Ystradyfodwg
Glamorganshire


Maureen

Catherine

Catherine Report 13 Apr 2010 15:41

Census is reg. dist. Ponypridd so this is a possible marriage:-

Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
JONES David Pontypridd 11a 433
xxxxx JONES Elias Pontypridd 11a 433
LEWIS Mary Ann Pontypridd 11a 433
xxxxx WILLIAMS Margaret Pontypridd 11a 433

Mother in law in census is Williams so does look to be this one!

Catherine

Catherine Report 13 Apr 2010 15:45

Same family in 1911

JONES, Elias Head Married M 50 1861 Colliery Checkweigher Above Ground Monmouth Mon VIEW
JONES, Margaret Wife Married 30 years F 49 1862 Glamorgan Cwmparc VIEW
JONES, Catherine Daughter Single F 22 1889 Glamorgan Cwmparc VIEW
JONES, Robert Son Single M 18 1893 Miner Hewer Of Coal Glamorgan Cwmparc VIEW
JONES, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 15 1896 Glamorgan Cwmparc VIEW
JONES, William Nephew M 8 1903 Glamorgan Cwmparc VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
32344 Reference:
RG14PN32344 RG78PN1853A RD589 SD4 ED16 SN24

Registration District:
Pontypridd Sub District:
Rhondda EnumerationDistrict:
16 Parish:
Rhondda

Address:
20 Park Road Cwmpark Treorchy County:
Glamorganshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 13 Apr 2010 15:57

There are several possible marriages for Margaret Jane but, after doing a search on 1911, this one is particularly interesting:-

Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%)
Cullen John Small Pontypridd 11a 1047
xxxxx Davies David Henry Pontypridd 11a 1047
xxxxx JONES Margaret Jane Pontypridd 11a 1047
Nicholas Margaret Ann Pontypridd 11a 1047

This is what I found on 1911:-
DAVIES, Margaret Jane Head Widow F 29 1882 Glamorgan Cwmpark VIEW
DAVIES, William Son M 8 1903 Glamorgan Cwmpark VIEW
DAVIES, Sarah Daughter F 7 1904 Glamorgan Cwmpark VIEW
DAVIES, Maggie Irene Daughter F 5 1906 Glamorgan Cwmpark VIEW
DAVIES, Jonah Son M 3 1908 Glamorgan Cwmpark VIEW
WILLIAMS, Thomas Boarder M 32 1879 Miner Hewer Of Coal Glamorgan Cwmpark VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
32344 Reference:
RG14PN32344 RG78PN1853A RD589 SD4 ED16 SN7

Registration District:
Pontypridd Sub District:
Rhondda EnumerationDistrict:
16 Parish:
Rhondda

Address:
4 Park Road Cwmpark Treorchy County:
Glamorganshire

(Date and place of birth are correct and address is same as parents!)

To be sure though, you would have to take the risk of buying a cert. that is not the one you want.

Catherine

Catherine Report 13 Apr 2010 16:10

Ann,
What other info are you looking for?
Before going further it would be best to confirm, if you can, that this is the correct family.
If you are descended from Margaret Jane Jones, then is there nothing else you can tell us that could possibly confirm if we are on the correct track?

Catherine

Catherine Report 13 Apr 2010 16:15

This would appear to be father Elias in 1871:-

Name: Elias Jones
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Evan
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Blaina, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil parish: Ystradyfodwg
Town: Middle Hamlet
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Household schedule number: 90
Household Members:
Name Age
Evan Jones 40 - born: Blaina, Monmouthshire (Coal Miner)
Jane Jones 41 - born: Blaina, Monmouthshire
Elias Jones 11
Tom Jones 3
Ellicca Jones 18 - Daughter born: Blaina, Monmouthshire
Mary Ann Jones 8
Emma Jones 5


1861
Name: Elias Jones
Age: 3 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Evan
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Aberystruth, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Aberystruth
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Bedwelty
Sub-registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Household Members:
Name Age
Evan Jones 29 (Haulier)
Jane Jones 30 born: Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
James Jones 10 born: Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
Rebecca Jones 7 born: Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
Sarah A Jones 5 born: Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
Elias Jones 3 Mo


The marriage cert. will confirm if this is correct as father's name and occupation will be given.


Same family in 1881:-
Name: Evan Jones
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Blaina, Monmouth, Wales

Civil parish: Ystradyfodwg
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: 6 Gaffers Row
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Fireman

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Evan Jones 50
Jane Jones 51
Leah Jones 20 - Son born: Blaina, Monmouth (name looks like Eliah)
Mary A. Jones 18
Emily Jones 16
Tom Jones 14
Evan James Jones 10
Catherine Jones 8
Terbither Jones 7

Ann

Ann Report 15 Apr 2010 01:42

This family sounds promising, will have to ask my mother, so will have to send her an email via my brother.
Thanks

Ann

Ann Report 15 Apr 2010 01:43

Thanks have shown my mum and she says this is her family. Much appreciated. Ann