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I thought this was the 1881 family in 1891(three children's names and ages the same) but occupation doesn't fit?:-

Name: Richard Williams
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Wallasey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilary
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Wheelwright and Blacksmith

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Wallasey
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Williams 45
Mary Williams 44
John Williams 21
Louisa Williams 15
Mary Williams 10
Ralph Williams 8
Thomas McDonald 37

If his occupation was Labourer, then looks to be the 1881 I posted with mother Mary, which will fit with the birth record.

His fathers occuption o n the marriage cert states LABOURER

1891 shows another possible family:-

Name: William Williams
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Eliza A
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool; Everton

Civil parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: (looks like) 14 Buliver St.

Occupation:

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: South Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Williams 57 (Gas Collector for Liverpool Gas Co.)
Eliza A Williams 46
Jane A Williams 22
John M Williams 17
Anne E Williams 19
William Williams 16
Lewis Williams 15
Robert H C Williams 13

you could compare the occupation on his father's marriage to the occupation of his father when he was born. It may not be the same, but if it is, it is a start.

Have you tried the familysearch site?

This christening comes up. Was he Cof E?

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WILLIAM HENRY WILLIAMS
Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
08 MAR 1874
Christening:
22 MAR 1874 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: RICHARD WILLIAMS
Family
Mother: MARY

Messages:
No source document or additional information exists.

Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

his birth cert will give you his mother's name but this is a possible

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1881 England Census
about William Williams
Name: William Williams
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 36 Combermere St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Williams 38
Mary Williams 37
Richard Williams 11
John Williams 10
Margt. Williams 9
William Williams 7
Louisa Williams 6
Mary Williams
John Williams 42
William Lee 25


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What was his father's occupation?

Possible 1881

Name: William Williams
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 36 Combermere St

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Williams 38 (Labourer)
Mary Williams 37
Richard Williams 11
John Williams 10
Margt. Williams 9
William Williams 7
Louisa Williams 6
Mary Williams
John Williams 42
William Lee 25

I am trying to find out more about my grandfather and his parents and siblings. My grandfathers name was William Henry Williams. born Liverpool about 1873. His fathers name was Richard Williams. / I have William Henrys marriage cert. I also have plenty of info after his marriage( which was on the 15 April 1894 in Liverpool. His address on the cert. 4 Bolton Street Liverpool. ) and following that i have info upto date but nothing before his marriage. If anybody can help me I would be grateful.