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Beryl
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16 May 2010 11:11 |
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Trying to find correct details of Philip Walker c1850. Who did he marry did he have more children I can only find Annie. They lived in the Grangetown area of Yorkshire. Any help would be welcome Regards Beryl
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rootgatherer
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16 May 2010 11:15 |
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When and where was Annie born please? What was philip'a occupation on her marriage registration please?
Is this her marriage please?
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Walker Annie Eliza Middlesbro' 9d 1119 Winter William Newby Middlesbro' 9d 1119
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16 May 2010 12:01 |
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1901 Census
Name: Annie E Winter Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William N Gender: Female Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Wilton Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert Town: Lazenby County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Guisborough Sub-registration district: Marske ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age William N Winter 40 Annie E Winter 27 Alice M Winter 4 Emily M Winter 2 Frederick T Winter 1 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4569; Folio: 83; Page: 13.
1881 Census
Name: Annie E. Walker Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Philip H. Mother's Name: Eliza J. Gender: Female Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Hunslet County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: 24 Elcho St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Hunslet Sub-registration district: Hunslet ED, institution, or vessel: 49 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Philip H. Walker 36 Boot & Shoe Maker, b. Channel Islands Eliza J. Walker 39 b. St Clare, Cornwall, England Emily M. Walker 11 b. Plymouth, Devon, England Frederick H. Walker 9 b. Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Annie E. Walker 7 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4492; Folio: 74; Page: 7; GSU roll: 1342076.
1871 - Same Philip but a different birth place.
Name: Philip H Walker Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eliza Jane Gender: Male Where born: Surrey, England Civil parish: Falmouth Ecclesiastical parish: Falmouth County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Falmouth Sub-registration district: Falmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 348 Household Members: Name Age Philip H Walker 26 Journeyman Shoemaker Eliza Jane Walker 29 Emily M Walker 1 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2292; Folio: 98; Page: 56; GSU roll: 834890.
1861 Census
Name: Philip Walker Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Relation: Apprentice Gender: Male Where born: Jersey, Channel Islands Civil parish: St Andrew Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Plymouth Sub-registration district: St Andrew ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 138 Household Members: Name Age William Saltern 35 Mary Saltern 30 Harry Saltern 2 John Balemey 24 George Grible 19 Philip Walker 17 Boot & Shoe Apprentice Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1439; Folio: 62; Page: 20; GSU roll: 542813.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BENNETT Eliza Jane Plymouth 5b 572 WALKER Philip Henry Plymouth 5b 572
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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16 May 2010 12:02 |
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Hi Beryl Just for info--is this your Annie in 1911 Census ? When you say you are looking for Philip Walker, is that the name of Annies Father on the marriage cert ?
1911 census transcription details for: Queen St Lazenby Eston National Archive Reference: RG14PN29187 RG78PN1691 RD534 SD3 ED15 SN96 Reg. District: Guisborough Sub District: Marske Parish: Wilton Enum. District: 15 Address: Queen St Lazenby Eston County: Yorkshire (North riding) Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINTER, William Newby Head Married M 50 1861 Ironstone Miner Yorks Normanby
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINTER, Annie Eliza Wife Married 15 years F 38 1873 Yorks Leeds
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINTER, Emily May Daughter F 12 1899 School Yorks Wilton
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINTER, Fredrick Thomas Son M 11 1900 School Yorks Wilton
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINTER, Annie Eliza Daughter F 7 1904 School Yorks Wilton
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINTER, Mary Ella Daughter F 5 1906 School Yorks Wilton
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINTER, Evelyn Grace Daughter F 1 1910 Yorks Wilton
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It says 6 children born and 6 still living up to the 1911 census Best wishes Barbara
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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16 May 2010 12:07 |
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Good one rootgatherer --looks the right Annie to me with Philip as father. Best wishes Barbara x
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rootgatherer
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16 May 2010 12:20 |
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Barbara, all we need now is for Beryl to come back and let us know that we have the correct family! That Philip must have inspired the song "Roving Journeyman"!!
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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16 May 2010 12:39 |
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lol too true
I wasnt sure where "Grangetown area of Yorkshire" was--I Googled it and it seems to be
"Grangetown is a township in the borough of Redcar and Cleveland and the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire, England" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maybe other children to Annie and William
Births Sep 1911 WINTER Doris G mothers maiden name Walker Guisbro' 9d 1000 ----------------------------------------------------
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Births Sep 1912 Winter Grace E mothers maiden name Walker Guisbro 9d 963 ----------------------------------------------- and
Births Jun 1918 Winter William H mothers maiden name-- Walker Guisbro 9d 742 -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Best wishes Barbara
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Beryl
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16 May 2010 13:03 |
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To both of you You have made my day. You came up with my husbands Grandfather William Newby Winter, and most of his aunts and Uncle. Also you found all the info I could not find about Philip Henry Walker and his wife Eliza Jane Bennett. Thank you very much. Beryl
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rootgatherer
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16 May 2010 13:06 |
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It is our pleasure Beryl It makes our day too when someone comes back to say we have the correct family, so thank you.
Would you like us to look for William with his family too?
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rootgatherer
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16 May 2010 13:10 |
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1891 Census
Name: William N Winter Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Normanby, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Eston Ecclesiastical parish: Eston Town: Grangetown County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub-registration district: Ormesby ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Annie Winter 53 Married, b. Durham William N Winter 30 Ironstone Miner Tom Winter 26 born: Normanby, Yorkshire, England George Winter 24 born: Normanby, Yorkshire, England Alice Winter 18 born: Normanby, Yorkshire, England Peter Winter 16 born: Normanby, Yorkshire, England Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4016; Folio 55; Page 24; GSU roll: 6099126.
1881
Name: William Winter Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Normanby, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Normanby in Middlesbrough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: 24 Lambton St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Iron Miner Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub-registration district: Ormesby ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Winter 47 Iron Miner Annie Winter 43 William Winter 21 Thomas Winter 17 George Winter 15 Joshua Winter 14 Mary Winter 12 Alice Winter 8 Peter Winter 6 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4859; Folio: 16; Page: 25; GSU roll: 1342170.
Births Sep 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINTER William Newby Guisbro 9d 403
This may be his parents marriage - but there is a female name missing!!
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1858 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kettle Ruth Guisbro 9d 636 Parker Joseph Guisbro 9d 636 Winter Thomas Guisbro 9d 636 <<<<<<
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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16 May 2010 13:22 |
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I couldn't have put it better myself to quote rootgatherer
"It is our pleasure Beryl It makes our day too when someone comes back to say we have the correct family, so thank you."
Alice M Winter (c1897) was missing from 1911 census --I have been having a look to see if I could find her --no luck so far !! Best wishes Barbara
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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16 May 2010 13:31 |
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Maybe missing Bride on the
June 1858 marriage Newby Ann Guisbro 9d 6_6 ----------------------------------------
Would fit nicely as Williams second name was Newby What do you think ?
Barbara x
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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16 May 2010 13:48 |
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Maybe Alice in 1911 Census ?? With her Uncle Thomas.
1911 census transcription details for: Lord Street Redcar National Archive Reference: RG14PN29176 RG78PN1691 RD534 SD3 ED4 SN319 Reg. District: Guisborough Sub District: Marske Parish: Redcar Enum. District: 4 Address: Lord Street Redcar County: Yorkshire (North riding) Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINTER, Tom Head Married M 47 1864 Confectioner Normanby Yorkshire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINTER, Emily Maud Wife Married 20 years F 41 1870 Plymouth Devonshire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINTER, Winifed May Daughter F 5 1906 School Redcar Yorkshire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>WINTER, Alice Maud Niece F 14 1897 Asst In Business Lazenby Yorkshire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DEME, Frances Elizabeth Servant Single F 23 1888 General Servant Domestic Bermondsey London
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Beryl
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16 May 2010 13:52 |
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Hello again Doris was my Mother-in-law and William her brother was known as Bill. Grace we have not heard about but you never know maybe she died in childhood. I am from Wakefield in Yorkshire, but have not lived there since 1967 when we emigrated to South Africa.
Beryl
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Beryl
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16 May 2010 14:04 |
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Alice M married a Harold Johnson June 1917 so she must have been visiting
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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16 May 2010 15:56 |
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Hi Beryl I will delete the above info and send it to your message box --(Personal Message) only because I don't like to put things on the board that is after the 1920 / 30's Best wishes Barbara xx
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17 May 2010 01:10 |
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From St Helier baptisms
Baptism Apr 25th 1843 privately Birth Apr 24th 1843 Philip Henry Walker Father Henry Mother Sarah Pingelly Godaprents Isaac Young and Agnes Young
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rootgatherer
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17 May 2010 09:08 |
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Thank you Barbara that looks perfect for William's Mum - I was hoping that her surname would match William's middle name!
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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17 May 2010 22:53 |
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Well done "jerseylily" that does look good for Philip Henry Walker's birth and baptism best wishes Barbara xx
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