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Well done "jerseylily" that does look good for Philip Henry Walker's birth and baptism
best wishes
Barbara xx

Thank you Barbara that looks perfect for William's Mum - I was hoping that her surname would match William's middle name!

From St Helier baptisms

Baptism Apr 25th 1843 privately
Birth Apr 24th 1843
Philip Henry Walker
Father Henry
Mother Sarah Pingelly
Godaprents Isaac Young and Agnes Young

Hi Beryl
I will delete the above info and send it to your message box --(Personal Message) only because I don't like to put things on the board that is after the 1920 / 30's
Best wishes
Barbara xx

Alice M married a Harold Johnson June 1917 so she must have been visiting

Hello again
Doris was my Mother-in-law and William her brother was known as Bill.
Grace we have not heard about but you never know maybe she died in childhood.
I am from Wakefield in Yorkshire, but have not lived there since 1967 when we emigrated to South Africa.

Beryl

Maybe Alice in 1911 Census ?? With her Uncle Thomas.

1911 census transcription details for: Lord Street Redcar

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN29176 RG78PN1691 RD534 SD3 ED4 SN319


Reg. District: Guisborough Sub District: Marske
Parish: Redcar Enum. District: 4

Address: Lord Street Redcar
County: Yorkshire (North riding)


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

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WINTER, Tom Head Married M 47 1864 Confectioner Normanby Yorkshire

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WINTER, Emily Maud Wife Married 20 years F 41 1870 Plymouth Devonshire

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WINTER, Winifed May Daughter F 5 1906 School Redcar Yorkshire

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>>>>WINTER, Alice Maud Niece F 14 1897 Asst In Business Lazenby Yorkshire

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DEME, Frances Elizabeth Servant Single F 23 1888 General Servant Domestic Bermondsey London

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Maybe missing Bride on the

June 1858 marriage
Newby Ann
Guisbro 9d 6_6
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Would fit nicely as Williams second name was Newby
What do you think ?

Barbara x

I couldn't have put it better myself
to quote rootgatherer

"It is our pleasure Beryl It makes our day too when someone comes back to say we have the correct family, so thank you."

Alice M Winter (c1897) was missing from 1911 census --I have been having a look to see if I could find her --no luck so far !!
Best wishes
Barbara

1891 Census

Name: William N Winter
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Normanby, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Eston
Ecclesiastical parish: Eston
Town: Grangetown
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Winter 53 Married, b. Durham
William N Winter 30 Ironstone Miner
Tom Winter 26 born: Normanby, Yorkshire, England
George Winter 24 born: Normanby, Yorkshire, England
Alice Winter 18 born: Normanby, Yorkshire, England
Peter Winter 16 born: Normanby, Yorkshire, England

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4016; Folio 55; Page 24; GSU roll: 6099126.



1881

Name: William Winter
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Normanby, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Normanby in Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 24 Lambton St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Iron Miner

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Winter 47 Iron Miner
Annie Winter 43
William Winter 21
Thomas Winter 17
George Winter 15
Joshua Winter 14
Mary Winter 12
Alice Winter 8
Peter Winter 6

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4859; Folio: 16; Page: 25; GSU roll: 1342170.



Births Sep 1860 (>99%)
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WINTER William Newby Guisbro 9d 403



This may be his parents marriage - but there is a female name missing!!

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1858 (>99%)
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Kettle Ruth Guisbro 9d 636
Parker Joseph Guisbro 9d 636
Winter Thomas Guisbro 9d 636 <<<<<<

It is our pleasure Beryl It makes our day too when someone comes back to say we have the correct family, so thank you.

Would you like us to look for William with his family too?

To both of you
You have made my day.
You came up with my husbands Grandfather William Newby Winter, and most of his aunts and Uncle.
Also you found all the info I could not find about Philip Henry Walker and his wife Eliza Jane Bennett.
Thank you very much.
Beryl

lol too true

I wasnt sure where "Grangetown area of Yorkshire" was--I Googled it and it seems to be

"Grangetown is a township in the borough of Redcar and Cleveland and the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire, England"
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Maybe other children to Annie and William

Births Sep 1911

WINTER Doris G
mothers maiden name Walker
Guisbro' 9d 1000
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and

Births Sep 1912

Winter Grace E
mothers maiden name Walker
Guisbro 9d 963
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and

Births Jun 1918

Winter William H
mothers maiden name-- Walker
Guisbro 9d 742
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Best wishes
Barbara

Barbara, all we need now is for Beryl to come back and let us know that we have the correct family! That Philip must have inspired the song "Roving Journeyman"!!

Good one rootgatherer --looks the right Annie to me with Philip as father.
Best wishes
Barbara x

Hi Beryl
Just for info--is this your Annie in 1911 Census ? When you say you are looking for Philip Walker, is that the name of Annies Father on the marriage cert ?

1911 census transcription details for: Queen St Lazenby Eston

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN29187 RG78PN1691 RD534 SD3 ED15 SN96


Reg. District: Guisborough Sub District: Marske
Parish: Wilton Enum. District: 15

Address: Queen St Lazenby Eston
County: Yorkshire (North riding)


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

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WINTER, William Newby Head Married M 50 1861 Ironstone Miner Yorks Normanby

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WINTER, Annie Eliza Wife Married 15 years F 38 1873 Yorks Leeds

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WINTER, Emily May Daughter F 12 1899 School Yorks Wilton

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WINTER, Fredrick Thomas Son M 11 1900 School Yorks Wilton

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WINTER, Annie Eliza Daughter F 7 1904 School Yorks Wilton

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WINTER, Mary Ella Daughter F 5 1906 School Yorks Wilton

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WINTER, Evelyn Grace Daughter F 1 1910 Yorks Wilton

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It says 6 children born and 6 still living up to the 1911 census

Best wishes
Barbara

1901 Census

Name: Annie E Winter
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William N
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Wilton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert
Town: Lazenby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Guisborough
Sub-registration district: Marske
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
William N Winter 40
Annie E Winter 27
Alice M Winter 4
Emily M Winter 2
Frederick T Winter 1

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4569; Folio: 83; Page: 13.


1881 Census

Name: Annie E. Walker
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Philip H.
Mother's Name: Eliza J.
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Hunslet
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 24 Elcho St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Hunslet
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Philip H. Walker 36 Boot & Shoe Maker, b. Channel Islands
Eliza J. Walker 39 b. St Clare, Cornwall, England
Emily M. Walker 11 b. Plymouth, Devon, England
Frederick H. Walker 9 b. Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Annie E. Walker 7

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4492; Folio: 74; Page: 7; GSU roll: 1342076.

1871 - Same Philip but a different birth place.

Name: Philip H Walker
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Surrey, England
Civil parish: Falmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Falmouth
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: Falmouth
Sub-registration district: Falmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 348
Household Members: Name Age
Philip H Walker 26 Journeyman Shoemaker
Eliza Jane Walker 29
Emily M Walker 1

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2292; Folio: 98; Page: 56; GSU roll: 834890.



1861 Census

Name: Philip Walker
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Jersey, Channel Islands

Civil parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 138
Household Members: Name Age
William Saltern 35
Mary Saltern 30
Harry Saltern 2
John Balemey 24
George Grible 19
Philip Walker 17 Boot & Shoe Apprentice

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1439; Folio: 62; Page: 20; GSU roll: 542813.



Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%)
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BENNETT Eliza Jane Plymouth 5b 572
WALKER Philip Henry Plymouth 5b 572

When and where was Annie born please? What was philip'a occupation on her marriage registration please?



Is this her marriage please?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
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Walker Annie Eliza Middlesbro' 9d 1119
Winter William Newby Middlesbro' 9d 1119

Trying to find correct details of Philip Walker c1850.
Who did he marry did he have more children I can only find Annie.
They lived in the Grangetown area of Yorkshire.
Any help would be welcome
Regards
Beryl