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Kathryn
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31 May 2010 22:09 |
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Agnes was born 1842 in Lasswade Scotland to Elizabeth Mein and David Walker. I can't find any of them on a census. I know she married in 1865 in New Zealand but also can't find her arriving in NZ. Any one with ideas on where to look would be great. Thanks.
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Flick
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31 May 2010 22:19 |
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This is the only one born in approx year in Midlothian
1851
Name: Agnes Walker Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relationship: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Edinburgh Parish Number: 685/1 Civil parish: Edinburgh Old Greyfriars County: Midlothian Address: 27 Cowgate Occupation: Scholar ED: 8 Page: 1 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 1 Line: 5 Roll: CSSCT1851_177 Household Members: Name Age John Weir 45 Helen Weir 43 Helen Weir 17 John Weir 4 Agnes Walker 10
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31 May 2010 22:24 |
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DAVID WALKER
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH MEIN Marriage: 25 JUN 1841 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland M119899
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Kathryn
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31 May 2010 22:34 |
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Thanks, I saw that census but can't find a death for David or Elizabeth that would mean that she had to go and live with her Aunt and Uncle. Thanks for your help.
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Aileen
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31 May 2010 23:47 |
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If they died before 1855 there probably wont be a record
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Aileen
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31 May 2010 23:50 |
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Death for Elizabeth Walker ms Mein
1902 MEIN ELIZABETH WALKER F 80 KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK
Elizabeth Walker ...widow of David Walker (Mason) died May 17th 1902 at 194 Dumbarton Road Glasgow aged 80.....daughter of William (Skinner) and Agnes Mein ms Law
The details given were not given by a family member and therefore may not be totally acurate
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Aileen
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1 Jun 2010 00:15 |
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Record of Agnes ' birth gives her born in Edinburgh
05/06/1842 WALKER AGNES DAVID WALKER/ELIZABETH MEIN FR2515 F ST CUTHBERT'S EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN
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Kathryn
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1 Jun 2010 01:09 |
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Aileen, Thank you so much for your help.
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1 Jun 2010 01:23 |
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I looked for Elizabeth Walker b. ca 1822 +/- 5, Scotland .... and it produced this one.
Unfortunately you can't look at the actual census on ancestry!
1841 Census
Name: Elizabeth Walker Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1820 Gender: Female Where born: Scotland Civil parish: Edinburgh St Luke County: Midlothian Address: Queen Street No 65 Occupation: F S Parish Number: 685/1 Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Hogue 48 Helen Hogue 36 Margaret Hogue 13 Jemima Hogue 12 James Hogue 10 David Hogue 8 Elizabeth Hogue 6 Helen Hogue 4 Alison Hogue 2 Robina Hogue 1 Mo Margaret Wilson 30 Elizabeth Wilson 13 Jane Lumsden 30 >>>>Catharine Mein 27 >>>>Elizabeth Walker 21 Lilly Henderson 15
could Catherine be her sister??????????????????
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Jun 2010 02:02 |
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from the I G I on familysearch.org
ELIZABETH MEIN Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 25 MAR 1817 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Death: Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM MEIN Family Mother: AGNES BARCLAY ----------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
----------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C119877 1817 - 1819 1066756, 0103059 Film 6901046 Film
ELIZABETH MEIN Pedigree Female Family Parents: Father: WILLIAM MEIN Family Marriages: Spouse: DAVID WALKER Family Marriage: 25 JUN 1841 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
------------ Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. ----------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M119899 1838 - 1841 1066765 Film 6900813 Film
possible siblings (I'm trying to see if that Catherine on the 1841 Census could be a sibling!)
All parents are William Mein and Agnes Barclay
MATILDA MEIN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 18 JUL 1822 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland ROBERT MEIN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 23 MAY 1828 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland ELIZABETH MEIN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 25 MAR 1817 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland JEAN MEIN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 14 JUL 1814 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland AGNES MEIN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 12 MAR 1825 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland ANNE MEIN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 05 MAR 1811 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
no Catherine!!
cousin maybe????
CATHERINE MEIN Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 11 JUN 1809 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland Parents: Father: GEORGE MEIN Family Mother: CATHRINE ERSKINE --------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
------------ Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C195038 1805 - 1819 1067772, 1067779 Film 6901040 Film
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1 Jun 2010 02:03 |
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I'm actually wondering if Agnes was living with the Weirs in 1851 because her parents were away, or Elizabeth was having another child.
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Kathryn
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1 Jun 2010 03:34 |
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Sylvia , Thanks for your help. I hadn't even thought about them being away. Thanks again. kath
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Gael
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1 Jun 2010 07:28 |
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Where about in New Zealand did they go?
try looking under Denise & Peter's Home Page comprehensive site or NZ Bound http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/lists.htm Gael
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Aileen
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1 Jun 2010 10:19 |
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The 1841 census that Sylvia found was take shortly before (06/06/1841) Elizabeth Mein married David Walker so unless the marriage date is wrong or Elizabeth called herself Walker before she married it not the one we are looking for
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Aileen
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1 Jun 2010 10:32 |
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? Possible for 1841 census
Name: Elizabeth Mein Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Gender: Female Where born: Midlothian, Scotland Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts County: Midlothian Address: Gergie Mills Parish Number: 685/2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Willm Mein 50............Occ is given as Skinner Jean Mein 25 Elizabeth Mein 20 Martha Mein 15 Robert Mein 13 Willm Mein 17
The other children's names would more or less tie in with Sylvia's suggestion that Agnes Barclay was the mothers name and not Agnes Law
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Aileen
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1 Jun 2010 10:48 |
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? Possible for 1861 census
Name: Elizabeth Walker Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1822 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Gorgie, Edinburgh Registration Number: 693 Registration district: Liberton Civil parish: Liberton County: Midlothian Address: Five Houses Occupation: Ag Labourer ED: 5 Household schedule number: 45 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1861_132 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Walker 39 David Walker 13 Margaret Walter 6
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Aileen
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1 Jun 2010 11:02 |
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I have found Elizabeth on 1871 and 1881 census too but haven't copied them here as she doesn't appear to be with family members. 1901 census suggests that the part she is on is not the whole return.....
Name: Elizabeth Walker Age: 85 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Relationship: Mother Gender: Female Where born: Midlothian Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil parish: Glasgow Sandyford County: Lanarkshire Address: 194 Dumbart Rd Occupation: Annuitant ED: 21 Household schedule number: 80 Line: 17 Roll: CSSCT1901_298 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Walker 85
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Aileen
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1 Jun 2010 11:07 |
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This is the other part of the 1901 census
Name: Margaret Edgar Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relationship: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Midlothian Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil parish: Glasgow Sandyford County: Lanarkshire Address: 194 Dumbart Rd Occupation: Housewife ED: 21 Household schedule number: 80 Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1901_298 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Edgar 42 Jeann Edgar 14 Thomas Edgar 12 Alexander Edgar 10 Margaret Edgar 7 Peter Edgar 35
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Aileen
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1 Jun 2010 11:10 |
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Elizabeth's death cert was signed by Peter Edgar who appears to have been her daughter Margaret's brother-in-law.
I haven't found a death for David Walker but a reasonable assumption would be that he died before statutory records began in 1855
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Kathryn
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1 Jun 2010 23:48 |
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Gael, Thanks I will try the sites. Agnes ended up in Blenhiem where she married a Thomas Warner in 1865. I know she could have come in at several ports and even come over from Australia. Her age means that it is unlikely she was a convict as they stoped arriving in Aus after 1840s. kath.
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