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Michael

Michael Report 10 Jul 2010 21:51

I am trying to find any information on my grandfathers bro Frederick Bertie Hall born 1891 in Norwich I have found him still at home at 8 Garden St Norwich in the 1911 and 1901 census and a possible marriage in Norwich in March 1920 to a May Morrant but when I search for his birth rec on Free BMD it comes up no match found and the same when I search for any children. When I search for a death one comes up for about the same age at Hartlepool but after sending for the death cert it seems to be the wrong one as the informant was his widow but she was an A Hall.
Any help here would be much appreciated

Flick

Flick Report 10 Jul 2010 21:56

Where does the name Bertie appear?

Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
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Hall Frederick Herbert Norwich 4b 112

K

K Report 10 Jul 2010 21:56

Possible birth

Births Mar 1892 (>99%)

Hall Frederick Herbert Norwich 4b 112

Flick

Flick Report 10 Jul 2010 22:02

Is THIS 1911?

1911 census - household transcription
Person: HALL, Fred B
Address: 42 Suffolk St Norwich

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HALL, Elizabeth Head Married F 50 1861 Houseduties Norfolk Norwich VIEW
HALL, Gertrude Daughter Single F 22 1889 Packer Fish Norfolk Norwich VIEW
HALL, Fred B Son Single M 20 1891 Insurance Agent Norfolk Norwich VIEW
HALL, Emily Daughter Single F 18 1893 Packer Sweets Norfolk Norwich VIEW
HALL, Alice Daughter Single F 15 1896 None At All Norfolk Norwich VIEW
HALL, Milly Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Norfolk Norwich VIEW
HARPER, Thomas Lodger Widower M 61 1850 Buyer And Seller Of Metal Etc Norfolk Norwich VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
11317 Reference:
RG14PN11317 RG78PN614 RD225 SD2 ED28 SN266

Registration District:
Norwich Sub District:
West Wymer Enumeration District:
28 Parish:
Norwich

Address:
42 Suffolk St Norwich

Flick

Flick Report 10 Jul 2010 22:05

And 1901?

Name: Fredrick Hall
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Norwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael at Thorn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England



Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: East Wymer
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Hall 39
Harry Hall 20
William Hall 18
Gertrude Hall 12
Fredrick Hall 10
Emily Hall 8
Alice Hall 5
Milly Hall 3
Elizabeth Leach 71
Bessie Meachen 17
George Meachen 26
George Meachen 4 months

Flick

Flick Report 10 Jul 2010 22:06

Have you found birth registrations for the other children?

Flick

Flick Report 10 Jul 2010 22:08

You should have juggled his names................

Name: Bertie Frederick Hall
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Norwich
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 138

K

K Report 10 Jul 2010 22:08

Another possible birth

Name: Bertie Frederick Hall
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Norwich
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 138

K

K Report 10 Jul 2010 22:13

But this could be Bertie Frederick in 1901!

Name: Bertie Hall
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Norwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Pockthorpe and St James
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: East Wymer
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 198
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Hall 53
Emma Hall 52
Harry Hall 22
Amelia Hall 19
Alice Hall 17
Maud Hall 17
Agnes Hall 13
Bertie Hall 11

Michael

Michael Report 10 Jul 2010 22:21

Thanks Flick. The name Bertie appears on the marriage cert I have and I suppose that could be a shorter alternative to Herbert so we should be on the right track.
The 1911 and 1901 records you have are the same as mine.
No, I have not been able to find any birth registrations for any of his children

Flick

Flick Report 10 Jul 2010 22:27

I posted the probable birth at 22:08.............

By OTHER children, I meant those on the census!

Michael

Michael Report 10 Jul 2010 22:29

Thanks K. Thanks for the birth info the first one seems to be the right one but I am afraid the 1901 Census rec is not the same as mine.
Thanks again

Flick

Flick Report 10 Jul 2010 22:33

If this man was your grandfather's brother, you obviously know the names of his parents.....what were they?

Michael

Michael Report 10 Jul 2010 22:37

Thanks for the correction Flick it shows how easy a novice like me could go off on the wrong track..

Michael

Michael Report 10 Jul 2010 22:46

His parents names were Henry Hall born 1858 I dont know where and his mums name was Elizabeth Leach born 1862 in Norwich. I had rthis info from the 1881 and 1891 censuses.

Flick

Flick Report 11 Jul 2010 10:55

This is a total long shot

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
Name: Fredk Bertie Hall
Regiment or Corps: Norf R Dpt
Regimental Number: 40461


Michael

Michael Report 4 Aug 2010 20:58

Hi guys
I have now had the birth cert for Bertie Frederick which is definitely the right one, so from the 1901 census onwards or maybe before he juggled his christian names to Frederick Bertie, i also have his marriage cert to a May Coperman Morrant in Norwich on March 20th 1920 and the death cert for his wife in Norwich on 7 May 1934 and Fred was the informant so he was obviously still alive in May 1934.
But I am still searching for a death rec for Fred as when I search for Norfolk as he was born and lived in Norwich up until 1934 , it comes up 'no matches', then I search under all counties and I end up with a huge list as this must have been a popular name at this time.
So please can someone help me find this death record and if possible if they had any children.
Thanks

Flick

Flick Report 4 Aug 2010 21:04

Looking for possible children is something you can do, Michael

Go to freebmd and put in just the relevant surnames.............click 'find'

Flick

Flick Report 4 Aug 2010 21:08

Possibility ONLY

Name: Frederick B Hall
Death Registration Month/Year: 1956
Age at death (estimated): 66
Registration district: Norwich Outer
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 542

Michael

Michael Report 4 Aug 2010 21:11

I have tried going to freebmd and putting in the relevant surnames as this is the first thing I do and it comes up ' no match found' so would this mean that they had no children?