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Bethan
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13 Jul 2010 23:20 |
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Hi im looking for any information on a house called pentreco in wales. My great grandmother was born there in the 1870's to sarah and david. Her name was charlotte jones and she had several brothers and sisters. one of which emigrated to america in the late 1870's
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kidsnpets
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13 Jul 2010 23:42 |
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hi are you sure pentreco is not a place in wales and not the name of a house. or is it a house at Meifod, Wales.
I put Pentreco Wales on google and this came up.
have copied and pasted it for you
Tony Woolham, St Dezery, France My grandfather was taken to visit Meifod by his parents as an infant, around 1876, and the Woolham family carried on the tradition of visiting for at least the next 100 years. As a child I used to stay at Pentrego, before it had electricity or a mains water supply. Anyone interested in Meifod and its history should try to obtain "Meifod - A Century of Change", published to mark the Millenium. Try the British Library Sun Mar 30 19:06:55 2008
hope that helps
ps google Pentreco on google maps, that does not come up but, Pentre in meiford does, maybe its name changed over the years.
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JaneyCanuck
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14 Jul 2010 00:10 |
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It would be kind of nice to know what the word actually is.
You have PENTECO in the heading and PENTRECO in the body of your message.
Proofread? You can use the Edit link in the lower left of your post to fix whichever one is wrong (or both, if they both are).
Best also to add a new post here to, to say you have made that change.
I tried searching the 1881 Wales census using both words as the address, but there were no results.
http://local.upmystreet.com/picture-of-pentrego-farm-id-352634.html
Name Pentrego Farm Description The view of the farmhouse as seen from the road travelling towards Meifod.
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In 1881 there is a Jones couple in Meifod, Montgomeryshire, street address Pentrego:
Edward Jones 52 - Farmer Of 130 Acres Employing 2 Men Ann Jones 45 Joseph E. Jones 12 Mary E. Jones 10 Margret A. Jones 8 David J. Jones 6 Henry R. Jones 4 Sarah M. Jones 2 John Evans 18 Mary Evans 22 Elizabeth Thomas 13
This doesn't seem to match your information.
Do you have an actual year of birth for Charlotte?
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JaneyCanuck
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14 Jul 2010 00:31 |
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Births Jun 1880 JONES Charlotte Jane Llanfyllin 11b 239 Births Mar 1886 JONES Charlotte Winifred Llanfyllin 11b 200
?? Only Charlotte Jones births in that reg dist 1870-1886.
The same household in 1891, address Pentrego, no Charlotte.
Edward Jones 61 Anne Jones 55 Joseph E Jones 22 Mary E Jones 20 Margaret A Jones 28 David J Jones 16 Henry R Jones 14 Sarah M Jones 12 John Owen 27
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JaneyCanuck
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14 Jul 2010 00:41 |
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If you just google PENTREGO you will find masses of stuff. That really is always the first line of attack.
This appears to be the current occupant -- it's a corporation so the info isn't "sensitive" here:
J.D BEST & SON POWYS, SY21 9DG WELSHPOOL, PENTREGO FARM, GUILSFIELD
Going by that address -- Welshpool -- I might guess that this is your Charlotte in the 1891 census:
Name: Charlotte L G Jones Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, Wales *** [MT, Welshpool] Civil parish: Ruabon Town: Ruabon County/Island: Denbighshire Country: Wales
Sarah Jones 52 - widow, living on own means Charlotte L G Jones 12 Margaret Lloyd 28 - servant
An Ancestry user has added the birthplace details to the census record.
Births Mar 1879 ? Jones Charlotte Louisa G Forden 11b 218
But the household in 1881 again doesn't match with your info:
Civil parish: Trallwmgollen County/Island: Montgomeryshire
John Jones 50 Sarah Jones 38 Charlotte Jones 2 Margaret Bennett 19 Ann Jones 14 George Pryce 15
In any event, Pentrego Farm appears to be what you're looking for.
The one at Welshpool might be a red herring.
At google maps, search for
Pentrego Farm, Meifod, Powys SY22 6DH, UK
Satellite view will show you details.
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Bethan
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14 Jul 2010 09:34 |
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hi, in the 1911 census pentreco is listed as charlottes birthplace. no other info there. Just pentreco. They werent there in 1879 or 1881. as i have letters written from her brother in america, addressed to pentremelwed, clydach. just wanted any info on it and if anyone recognises it as part of their tree, thanks
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Lynne
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3 Aug 2010 20:35 |
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Pentre is the welsh name for village. Pentreco? Have a nice day.
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AnnCardiff
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3 Aug 2010 20:43 |
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highly unlikely anyone who knows of this place will see your posting
I also feel enormous thanks are due to Janey for finding what she did - good on you Janey
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JaneyCanuck
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3 Aug 2010 21:20 |
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Yeah, I guess I figured that "thanks" was meant to do the job, afterthought though it looked.
I guess since Bethan has the 1911 census, she actually has an idea of *when* this Charlotte Jones was born. Why tell us, though?
No Charlotte in the 1911 census answers to "born in PENTRECO".
This one does, though:
DAVIES CHARLOT 1871 40 Swansea Glamorganshire
Seems to be husband Thomas and children Frances Ann, Sarah, Daniel, David Thomas and Isaac.
If only Bethan would tell us what she knows, e.g. where Charlotte is in earlier censuses. I'd looked just now at a David and Sarah couple, David a carpenter, with eldest son Thomas born in Llanelly, but that was just a random guess, I guess. So I've deleted it.
1901
Name: Charlotte Davies Age in 1901: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1871 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Thomas >>> Where born: Clydach, Glamorgan, Wales Civil parish: Clase County/Island: Glamorgan
Thomas Davies 31 Charlotte Davies 30 Francess A Davies 1
1881 and 1891 census give same birth info. Address in 1881 is 38 Mount Pleasant, Rhyndwyclydach, Pontardawe reg dist.
Not to be found in 1871 though.
Were the children perhaps Sarah's from a previous marriage?
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Bethan
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5 Aug 2010 10:45 |
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hi, yes i think that is it. the other children were born slightly later. My dad said that he never heard about a francess but when i looked at the 1911 census this is the only family i could find which had all the other children (my dads aunts and uncles) so im guessing that francess died before my dad was born. Also in the 1911 census she is down as Charlot. but think that is an error. i have letters sent to charlottes father david in 1881 from her brother david, so using this i managed to find a family which im pretty sure is hers, father david with mother sarah and siblings which have very similar names to charlottes children.
and janey that 'thanks' wasnt an afterthought it is just the way i write and i am greatful for the research you have been doing
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