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Frederick John King

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Kathleen

Kathleen Report 31 Jul 2010 18:07

Trying to find my great grandfather Frederick John KIng. He appears in 1911 census as being born in Tarrant Gunville, Dorset and living In Donhead Wiltshire. He has been married 15 years to Emma Jane Gray. In 1901 he is named as Fred N King living in Donhead with Emma but it says born in Dorset only. Could anyone help me find his parents please.

Mike *

Mike * Report 31 Jul 2010 18:13

How old was he in 1911 ?

His marriage certificate would give you his father's name.

Marriages Mar 1896

GRAY Emma Jane - Tisbury 5a 271
King Frederick John - Tisbury 5a 271

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 31 Jul 2010 18:14

His marriage cert should give you his father's name.

Marriages Mar 1896 (>99%)

GRAY Emma Jane Tisbury 5a 271
King Frederick John Tisbury 5a 271

Christine

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 31 Jul 2010 18:27

1901 census for ref
Name: Fred Jno King
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Tarrant Gunville, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Donhead St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: Donhead St Andrew
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Tisbury
Sub-registration district: Donhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 137
Household Members:
Name Age
Fred Jno King 36
Emma Jane King 27
Ernest King 5
Percival King 3
Reginald King 3 months

Rest of family born Donhead

jansmith

jansmith Report 31 Jul 2010 18:29

1901?
Name: Fred Jno King
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Tarrant Gunville, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Donhead St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: Donhead St Andrew
County/Island: Wiltshire


ousehold Members:
Name Age
Fred Jno King 36
Emma Jane King 27
Ernest King 5
Percival King 3
Reginald King 3 months

Ethel

Ethel Report 31 Jul 2010 19:13

Hi Kathleen. This is a bit odd.
On Ancestry there is a tree listed. Frederick John King . wife Emma Jane Gray and listed are their children. This shows birth Tarrant Guunville. Dorset, and shows 1871 living in Yeovil. Somerset with Ann King. Widow. and John King. 16. Frederick is shown as born in Ilchester. Somerset.
1881. Fred King. 16. Born Ilminster. Pupil Teacher.
yet on later census records he is shown as a farm worker.
His marriage has already been given. I think you need to get a copy of the certificate as this should show the Father's name and occupation(maybe) as he appears to be desceased at the time)Ethel.

jansmith

jansmith Report 31 Jul 2010 22:03

1881
Name: Emma J. Gray
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Twyford, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Compton Abbas


Household Members:
Name Age
William Gray 28
Jane Gray 28
Emma J. Gray 6
Sidney W. Gray 4
Frederic J. Gray 2
Infant Gray
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: Twyford Green

jansmith

jansmith Report 31 Jul 2010 22:10

is this the family in 1911
KING ARTHUR WILLIAM CHARLES M 1909 2 Tisbury Wiltshire

KING FLORENCE MATILDA F 1903 8 Tisbury Wiltshire
KING FREDERICK JOHN M 1865 46 Tisbury Wiltshire
KING GEORGE M 1833 78 Tisbury Wiltshire
KING REGINALD M 1901 10 Tisbury Wiltshire

if so could George be his father?

jansmith

jansmith Report 31 Jul 2010 22:16

??1881

Name: Frederick King
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Gender: Male
Where born: Chalbury, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Wimborne
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England



Household Members:
Name Age
George King 48 wid.
Frank King 15
Frederick King 13
Catharine Habgood 40 housekeeper


this could be birth index for this Frederick if so its MIDDLE NAME ISN'T THE RIGHT ONE!

Births Dec 1867
King Frederick George Wimborne 5a 253
Edith Habgood 9

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 1 Aug 2010 18:46

Thankyou for all replies. Frederick was born in 1865 in 1911 census. So aged 46. I will order a marriage cert. In 1911 I could not find a George (1833) but the rest are definitely the right family.

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 5 Aug 2010 19:40

Frederick John King's father was called James on his marriage certificate.
So thankyou to all my replies.

K

K Report 5 Aug 2010 19:52

Possible James listed as married 40 years]

1911 census - household transcription
Person: KING, James
Address: Bennet's Arm Semley Shaftesbury

KING, James Head Married M 62 1849 Innkeeper East Knoyle Wilts VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
12142 Reference:
RG14PN12142 RG78PN682 RD255 SD1 ED6 SN64

Registration District:
Tisbury Sub District:
Donhead Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Semley

Address:
Bennet's Arm Semley Shaftesbury County:
Wiltshire

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 5 Aug 2010 20:03

No idea on this one - a tree on Ancestry has a possible Frederick John Hiscock, EDIT just Frederick, alias King, parents James Hiscock alias King, and Emma Poore:

1881 England Census
about Frederick Hiscock
Name: Frederick Hiscock
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Gender: Male
Where born: Tarrant Gunville, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Tarrant Gunville
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address: Cottage
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Under Carter

Registration district: Blandford
Sub-registration district: Blandford
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Hiscock 46
Lavinia Poore 19
Frederick Hiscock 16
Ellen Hiscock 11
Emma Hiscock 6


Madmeg

Madmeg Report 5 Aug 2010 20:36

Marriages Dec 1863 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Conway James Blandford 5a 587
>>>>HISCOCK James Blandford 5a 587
Lucas Eliza Erina Blandford 5a 587
>>>POOD Emma Blandford 5a 587

I wouldn't accept this without proper investigation - but it won't be the first time people have changed their names!

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 5 Aug 2010 21:14

I think you need to make contact with the person on Ancestry. Do you have an Ancestry subscription? I can't find the King family in Dorset, but I CAN find the Hiscocks.

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 5 Aug 2010 21:26

This maybe the answer as i dont seem to be able to find Frederick before his marriage in 1896. Lots of James Kings so i dont know which is the right one.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 5 Aug 2010 21:36

Do you have a subscription to Ancestry Kathleen? There are actually a couple of people with Frederick John King in their trees, but no mention of Hiscock.

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 5 Aug 2010 22:03

Have tried to make contact with the Hiscocks , awaiting reply . It looks as though it could match up as the tree I looked at did not have any record of Fred after 1881.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 5 Aug 2010 22:05

Yes, that's right Kathleen. So someone has made the connection between King and Hiscock - and you need to know how and why.

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 7 Aug 2010 09:23

Still awaiting replies from two Hiscock trees. I have found F J Hiscock in1891 census in Donhead so probably is the F J King that I was looking for. He was married to Emma in1896.