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Nicola'S Report 2 Aug 2010 13:27

My ancestor's name is WILLIAM KENNEDY BAYLEY, born 1805 in Jamaica.

However, I know for certain from the archive records at Lincoln's Inn Fields that he was already in the UK by 1930.

I cannot find him in the 1841 Census. He should be in London at that time for his legal training, although there is a little whisper that he could also have been in Stockton (on-Tees?).

I don't expect him to be with any family members, since his father died in Jamaica before WKB set sail for the UK and I think that his mama may have remained there but sent her only child back 'home' for his education.
Any eagle eyes out there today, please? I may not be able to get straight back to this during the day but will check later on this evening.

Many thanks.

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 2 Aug 2010 13:45


William Bayley
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Male

Civil parish: St Bride and Precinct
Hundred: London Without the Walls
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: West London
Sub-registration district: South
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Bridges 17
Ann Frances 41
Ann Osborn 25
William Bayley 35

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 726; Book: 2; Civil Parish: St Bride and Precinct; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 17; Page: 29; Line: 1; GSU roll: 438831.

I can't look at the original image as Ancestry is wanting me to download the enhanced viewer - and I can't do that as I'm at work ... grrr



Janice Report 2 Aug 2010 13:54

I've just looked at it too and think it says Ind (there's another one on the opposite page that is clearer)
Wish they'd give these enumerator jobs to people with extremely legible writing!!

Mrs Grumpy - at the bottom of all the small print blurb about the viewer there should be a 'Continue' thing you can click on without downloading the viewer.


MargaretM Report 2 Aug 2010 13:55

Jill, you don't need to download the enhanced viewer. I never do. Just click on "No, just show me the image"

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 2 Aug 2010 13:58

He may have birthplace showing as N/K because someone else in the household completed the form/gave the info and didn't ask your man. They may have known he was born abroad but not much beyond that ...

Enhanced Viewer:
Hi peeps - thank you - I finally managed to bypass it but in the meantime also managed to send an e-mail to Ancestry!! Hey well, never mind.



Maddie Report 2 Aug 2010 13:59

Have found this on find my past
birth place unknown and Fleet Street is close to barristers chambers
SIMPSON, John M 33 1808 Middlesex VIEW
SIMPSON, Mary F 35 1806 Middlesex VIEW
BRIDGES, Edward M 17 1824 Middlesex VIEW
FRANCES, Ann F 41 1800 Middlesex VIEW
OSBORN, Ann F 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
BAYLEY, William M 35 1806 Not Known VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
726 Book/Folio:
2/17 Page:

Registration District:
The West London Union Sub District:
South Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
St Bride Municipal Borough:
London Address:
Fleet Street, St Bride, London County:


safc Report 2 Aug 2010 14:11

Name: Wm Kennedy Bayley
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 31 Aug 1806
Birth Date: 09 Mar 1805
Death Date:
Name Note:
Father's Name: Wm Kennedy Bayley
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Isabel Russel
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03357-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 223716
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Nicola'S Report 3 Aug 2010 00:16

Thank you to one and all, I think that's definitely nailed him.

Somerset Girl - if you're interested, since you've found his death, his was a very grisly endindeed! See my thread 'Gruesome death at Kings Cross'. Poor chap went under the train wheels. Ouch. Widely reported in The Times owing in some part to the fact that he was a Barrister I think. Have found his monument in All Souls' Cemetery and the kind peeps there are going to clear away the undergrowth and take pix for us.

SAFC - how did you do that? Please let me know your tips. I've tried since and am still failing where you succeeded.

Bed time now though; back tomorrow.



Nicola'S Report 11 Aug 2010 11:52

I've looked at the original that Mrs. Grumpy found. His place of birth is N/K!

I'm not 100% sure but I think his occupation is given as Ind - meaning of independent means.

Is this the same man in 1851??

1851 census transcription details for: 12, Hay Market, St Martin In The Fields, Westminster
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1481 Folio: 99 Page: 43

Reg. District: St Martin in the Fields Sub District: Charing Cross
Parish: St Martin in the Fields Enum. District: 2A
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Westminster
Address: 12, Hay Market, St Martin In The Fields, Westminster
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
BAYLEY, William R Head Unmarried M 46 1805 Barrister In Practice As A Conveyance

I've looked at the original and the R is probably a K, not very well written. Interestingly I note that there is a tick in the column headed Whether Blind or Deaf and Dumb.

Hhmm, alright for some! Retired now.

1861 census transcription details for: 17, Great Cumberland Street, St Marylebone, London
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09 Piece: 77 Folio: 18 Page: 30

Reg. District: Marylebone Sub District: 4 St Mary
Parish: St Marylebone Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: St Marys City/Municipal Borough: St Marylebone
Address: 17, Great Cumberland Street, St Marylebone, London
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
SPURGIN, John Head Married M 65 1796 Physician M D Cambridge And Fellow Of The Royal###
Bradwell on Sea
SPURGIN, Rose Wife Married F 49 1812
SPURGIN, Emily Daughter Unmarried F 20 1841
St Pancras
SPURGIN, Charles Son Unmarried M 18 1843
St Pancras
SPURGIN, Ada Daughter F 14 1847 Scholar
St Pancras
SPURGIN, Wm Son M 10 1851 Scholar
St Pancras
>>>BAYLEY, Wm R Visitor Unmarried M 56 1805 Retired Barrister
West Indies
SEARLE, Hens Servant Widower M 50 1811 Butler
BARKER, Emma Servant Unmarried F 21 1840 Housemaid
Wycombe Machet
LANG, Jane Servant Unmarried F 27 1834 Cook
St Marylebone


Nicola'S Report 21 Mar 2024 17:02

Hope it's OK to change the title of this thread?

It's an old thread and I realise that it looks more helpful to put his name in the title!



nameslessone Report 21 Mar 2024 17:07

After all this time an update on what you have found in the last 14 years and what you are hoping for now would be of a great help.

If you haven’t already done it you should look again at places you looked at in 2010, new ‘stuff’ often pops up years later.


ArgyllGran Report 21 Mar 2024 17:09

I don't know what the original title was, but I'm sure his name is the most helpful title!

Are you still looking for information about him, Nicola?


ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2024 17:19

Merely changing the title without saying what you actually want to know NOW - 14 years down the line - is not helpful, I'm sorry to say


ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2024 17:24

Because I'm at a loose end.....................

UK, Articles of Clerkship, 1756-1874
Clerk's Name William Kennedy Bayley
Attorney James Hall
Filing Date 31 Aug 1822
Parish or Town London

Name William Kennedy Bayley
Gender Male
Death Age 58
Record Type Burial
Birth Date abt 1805
Death Date 1863
Burial Date 30 May 1863
Burial Place All Souls, Kensal Green, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Register Type Bishop's Transcript

Name William Kennedy Bayley
Death Date 25 May 1863
Death Place Middlesex, England
Probate Date 14 Aug 1863
Probate Registry Principal Registry
Executors Spurgin and Richardson

What do you actually want to know..........................NOW?


ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2024 17:30

Name William Kennedy Bayley
Gender Male
Birth Date 31 Aug 1806*********************BAPTISM date
Birth Place Jamaica
Residence Place Lincoln's Inn
Father William Kennedy Bayley
Mother Isabel Russell

Name William Kennedy Bayley
Event Type Baptism
Baptism Date 31 Aug 1806
Parish Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's Name Willm Kennedy Bayley
Mother's Name Isabel Bayley
Archive Roll 755

[William Kennedy Bayley]
Event Type Baptism
Birth Date 9 Mar 1805
Baptism Date 31 Aug 1806
Baptism Place Manchester, Lancashire, England
Denomination Presbyterian
Father William Kennedy Bayley
Mother Isabel Ruley


Nicola'S Report 21 Mar 2024 18:52

Thank you for your comment ArgyllGran! That's what I thought and what I was trying to achieve.

This chap is dead and buried now - literally.

A colourful character with an awful end [which led me to wanting to know more].

"Last Edited=29 Feb 2008
William Kennedy Bayley was born in 1805 at JamaicaG.1 He was the son of William Kennedy Bayley and Isabel Russell.1 He died in June 1863 at St. Pancras Station, London, EnglandG, by falling under a train.1
He was admitted to Lincoln's Inn entitled to practise as a Barrister-at-Law.1 He lived at 11 Haymarket, London, EnglandG."

Thanks everyone. :-)


Nicola'S Report 22 Mar 2024 18:03

If you go to you can read all about 'my' family.

A fascinating lot with so much past history. And that is where I found about the grisly end to my man which led me to a transcript of his inquest. The coroner blamed WKB's "age and corpulence" to him falling between the open door and the train itself. OUCH.