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georgi

georgi Report 7 Aug 2010 23:08

I am trying to find info on Henry George William Edwards b 1904 in Godstone and George Mitchell Edwards b 1908 Croydon Surrey. They were found on 1911 Census with their Grandmother Charlotte Pook b 1854 Camberwell. She was b Payton. She married Wale & then Edwards and finally Pook.
Any info would really be appreciated.
Regards, Beryl

Flick

Flick Report 7 Aug 2010 23:14

What 'info' do you have in mind?

Their marriages (if they did marry) will be on freebmd...........check it out

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

patchem

patchem Report 8 Aug 2010 09:00

I think their names are too common to trace marriages.
Have you looked for others on this site with common ancestors?

Flick

Flick Report 8 Aug 2010 09:38

1911 census - household transcription
Person: POOK, Charlotte Caroline
Address: 177 Bynes Road South Croydon

Cost:
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POOK, Charlotte Caroline Head Widow F 56 1855 Tayloress Camberwell
EDWARDS, Florence Caroline Daughter In Law Single F 24 1887 General Servant Domestic Croydon*******************
EDWARDS, Henry George William Grandson Single M 6 1905 Godstone
EDWARDS, George Mitchell Grandson Single M 2 1909 Croydon

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3318 Reference:
RG14PN3318 RG78PN125 RD39 SD2 ED37 SN253

*********'Daughter in Law' would actually be step-daughter, as she is single, so you won't have much hope of identifying the father(s) of the boys, if that's what you had in mind.

Also, it means that Charlotte was not the grandmother of the boys........Florence's mother would have that blood relationship to them

Dea

Dea Report 8 Aug 2010 11:32

This looks like Florence's Baptism ??

Name: Florence Edwards
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 30 May 1886
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Peters, Croydon, Surrey, England

Father's Name: James Edwards
Mother's Name: Betsey

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02191-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 994340
Reference Number: item 4 p 193
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
.................

It would fit with this birth:


Births Mar 1886
EDWARDS Florence Croydon 2a 269

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 8 Aug 2010 12:16

This would be Florence on 1891:
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1891 England Census
about Florence Edwards
Name: Florence Edwards
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Female
Where born: Croydon, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Croydon
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: 20 Devonshire Rd.

Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Edwards 37 Wid. Tailoress
James Edwards 12
Eliza Edwards 10
Ellen Edwards 7
Florence Edwards 4
William Edwards 1

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 592; Folio 47; Page 17; GSU roll: 6095702.

.................

This is the marriage you suggest

Marriages Mar 1888 :
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**EDWARDS James Croydon 2a 271
REEVES Alfred Croydon 2a 271
**WALE Charlotte Caroline Croydon 2a 271
WHITE Maud Minnie Croydon 2a 271

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HANG ON .....

If James Edwards married Charlotte in 1888, who is this Charlotte on 1881???

Looks like the same one to me?? - It is certainly the same family............

1881 England Census
about James Edwards
Name: James Edwards
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Lodger (Head) (Lodger)
Spouse's name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Croydon, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: 14 Forster Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Gaffney 62
Emma Gaffney 56
James Edwards 27
Charlotte Edwards 26 wife Tailoress, b Croydon
James Edwards 2
Eliza Edwards 8 months.


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 815; Folio: 35; Page: 21; GSU roll: 1341192.

This would mean that Charlotte is in fact Florence's mother and the marriage to Charlotte Wale
is not correct.????

Can you give some more info please?

The 'in law' bit on 1911 looks like it has been added by the enumerator, maybe he assumed this
as Florence and the children had a differnt surname??

Dea x

P.S. - Off line now till later - will look back then.

Dea x

georgi

georgi Report 8 Aug 2010 16:09

Charlotte Caroline Payton b 1855 Camberwell m William Wale b 1850 London, in 1873. He disappeared and she is found living with James Edwards who she married in 1888. He died in Hospital in 1891. In 1901 she is with Henry George Pook and his c/d, I think. That is Helen Pook 19 & a Florence b Greenwich. In 1911 she is with Florence Caroline Edwards b Croydon 1887 her daughter and her two grandsons. Don't know their mother or father.
Hope you can help. Thanks.
Regards Beryl

Dea

Dea Report 8 Aug 2010 16:28

What do you think about the 1881 census which I posted ???

Dea x

georgi

georgi Report 8 Aug 2010 17:27

Thanks Dea,

Yes we have the 1881 Census & also 1891 Census where Charlotte is a widow with all her c/d.
She had an eventful life. Wonder who was the mother of her grandsons.
I appreciate all the help.

Regards, beryl

Flick

Flick Report 8 Aug 2010 21:13

Beryl

Didn't you take any notice of my comments with regard to the 1911 census?

georgi

georgi Report 8 Aug 2010 22:25

Yes, thanks. I have that one but it won't tell me the name of the mother of the boys. Maybe it was Florence Caroline Edwards or Charlotte Ellen or one of the other siblings.
I suppose there is no way of finding out except for birth certs.
We still can't figure out Eliza 1880 She is listed a Gaffney/Edwards.
Any ideas where I can go from here?
Regards Beryl