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Big thanks to all my helpers.I would not of found this without you,so much information for me to check out.. thank you all Debbie

Big thanks to all my helpers.I would not of found this without you,so much information for me to check out.. thank you all Debbie

I think that I have found the marriage and subsequent birth announcements for the aunt:
Sarah (Sadie )Elizabeth Jackson married Allen Richard Bentley in Sydney 1943
Both Sadie and her husband are now deceased
Will send the info to Goldielocks by PM as the children will probably still be living.

Anne

Well Done too Alviegal,
Goldielocks now has ages for her missing Aunt and Uncle.
Sarah E born circa 1918 and James bc 1922.

Anne

I wonder if this is her travelling to Oz? Certainly seems to be.


Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: Jane B T JACKSON
Date of departure: 8 May 1923
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Sydney
Destination country: Australia
Date of Birth: 1898 (calculated from age)
Age: 25
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Housewife
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 20
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

James JACKSON 1
Sarah E JACKSON 4

Ship: MORETON BAY
Official Number:
Master's name: J Mason
Steamship Line: Commonwealth Government
Where bound: Australia
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 13850
Passengers on voyage: 742



They lived at 88 Kirkton Street, Carluke.


This seems to be John going over first. Home address is 88 Kirkton St, Carluke.


Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: John JACKSON
Date of departure: 3 May 1922
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Melbourne
Destination country: Australia
Date of Birth: 1887 (calculated from age)
Age: 35
Marital Status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Miner
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 10 of 24

Ship: BARRABOOL
Official Number: 145424
Master's name: Captain R Bidwell
Steamship Line: P. & O. Branch Service
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 25.963
Registered tonnage: 7985
Passengers on voyage: 737

This appears to be Jane with her family. Her marriage certificate would give her parents' names for definite.



1901 census transcription details for: Loaningfoot, Kirkbean
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 870
Folio: 318
Page: 7
Reg. District: Kirkbean
Sub District:
Parish: Kirkbean
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: Kirkbean
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Loaningfoot, Kirkbean
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
THOMSON, John Head Married M 26 1875 Shepherd
Penpont, Dumfriesshire
THOMSON, Sarah Wife Married F 26 1875
Johnstone, Renfrewshire
THOMSON, John Son M 5 1896
Penpont, Dumfriesshire
THOMSON, Jane B Daughter F 3 1898
Applegarth, Dumfriesshire
THOMSON, Mary L Daughter F 1 1900
New Abbey, Kirkcudbrightshi

Well done Anne! It certainly seems as though you've cracked it.

Liz

Goldielocks,
Forgot to say that the death record and obituary for Jane Blair Jackson who died in 1988 will possibly provide some details on her children.

Anne

I have checked my Jackson lines, and confirm that your family and mine are not connected.
Looking at the census data above, it does look as if John was in School in Leith.
I also looked at a few trees on Ancestry and can see that his mother Elizabeth (Cook) died in 1899 which accounts for the family being split up in 1901.
This is his widowed father in 1901, living with his own mother ( Agnes Paterson) his unmarried siblings and the youngest son James.

1901 Scotland Census
about James Jackson
Name: James Jackson
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Agnes Jackson
Gender: Male
Where born: Carluke, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 629
Registration district: Carluke
Civil parish: Carluke
Town: Carluke
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Stewart Street
Occupation: Waterwork Contractor
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 320
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1901_256
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Jackson 67
James Jackson 44
Agnes Jackson 26
Janet Jackson 24
James Jackson 9
.
The military records for John are not held on Ancestry which would normally supply the soldiers address and next of kin.

EDIT

I think I have finally sussed it!
Sydney Morning Herald 7 Oct 1938
Divorce petition, Jackson v Jackson.
This article states John's 1st wife was called Jane Blair THOMSON and that they were married in Scotland
Ran another SP check and.....
John Jackson and Jane Blair Thomson married 1918 in TINWALD, DUMFRIES
(I would guess that Jane Blair Thomson was born in Dumfries 1898 daughter of John Thomson and Sarah Montgomery)

Here is the link to the SMH article

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17525855?searchTerm=jackson v jackson&searchLimits=l-title=35|||l-decade=193|||l-year=1938

I suspect that you already have this but, Ryerson Index shows a Jane Blair Jackson died 22 May 1988 age 91. Late of Ashfield ( Sydney Morning Herald 24 May 1988)

Anne

I think this must be his family.

1891 census transcription details for: Jerviston Lodge, Bothwell
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 625
Folio: 8
Page: 23
Reg. District: Holytown
Sub District:
Parish: Bothwell
Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Jerviston Lodge, Bothwell
County: Lanarkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
JACKSON, James Head Married M 33 1858 Steel Smelter
Carluke, Lanarkshire
JACKSON, Elizabeth Wife Married F 29 1862
Ardrossan, Ayrshire
JACKSON, John Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Motherwell, Lanarkshire
JACKSON, Robert Son M 3 1888 Scholar
Motherwell, Lanarkshire
JACKSON, Mary Daughter F 2 1889
Motherwell, Lanarkshire
JACKSON, Agnes Daughter F 0 (10 MO) 1891
Holytown, Lanarkshire


?? 1901 census transcription details for: Leith Industrial School 57 Lochend Road Leith,


National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 692
Folio: 52
Page: 2
Reg. District: South Leith
Sub District:
Parish: Leith
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: South Leith
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Leith
County: Midlothian
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
JACKSON, John Pupil Single M 14 1887 Scholar
Motherwell, Lanark


Daughter Mary with grandparents.


1901 census transcription details for: 32, Barr Lane, Ardrossan
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 576
Folio: 1
Page: 40
Reg. District: New Ardrossan
Sub District:
Parish: Ardrossan
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 32, Barr Lane, Ardrossan
County: Ayrshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
COOK, Robert Head Married M 75 1826 Cooper
Arran G & E, Buteshire
COOK, Mary Wife Married F 70 1831
Ardrossan, Ayrshire
COOK, Robert Son Single M 35 1866 Metallic Jointer
Ardrossan, Ayrshire
COOK, Maggie Daughter Single F 30 1871
Ardrossan, Ayrshire
COOK, Charles Son Single M 28 1873 Baker
Ardrossan, Ayrshire
JACKSON, Mary Granddaughter F 12 1889 Scholar
Motherwell, Lanarkshire

UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920
Name: John Jackson
Discharge Unit: Depot. Seaforth Highlanders
Regiment Number: 9054
Rank: C.Q.M.S.
Badge Number: 160570
Unit: Infantry (Perth)
Piece: 3062
List Number: G 0301-0598
Record Group: WO
Record Class: 329

(Date of Enlistment 13/12/04 Discharge 13/4/17 Cause, Sickness. Served Overseas Yes)

The British Empire lost more than 700,000 service personnel killed in World War 1. An even greater number were discharged because of wounds or illness. In September 1916, King George V authorized the Silver War Badge (SWB) to honor all military personnel who had served at home or overseas since 4 August 1914 and who had been discharged because of wounds or illness. The SWB was a small, circular badge made of sterling silver, bearing the king’s initials, a crown, and the inscriptions ‘For King and Empire’ and ‘Services Rendered’.
The SWB was not simply an honor; it also served a practical purpose. At the time, men of military age who were not obviously in the service were sometimes accosted or insulted by civilians presenting them with white feathers — a symbol of cowardice — for shirking their patriotic duty. The badge served as an outward symbol that the wearer’s duty to country had been honorably fulfilled.

Chris :)

Ann.I have the certificate on my granfather John Jackson served in the 1st Seaforth Highlanders.no.9054. it says.Served with honour and was disabled in the Great Was.Honourably discharged on 13th April 1914,which looks like 1917.

Alvigal. I have my grandparents marriage cert,birthplace listed as Motherwell,Scotland,his parents were Elizabeth Cook and James Jackson. and occ,listed as Labourer.

On my grandfathers death cert,I found the name of his first wife Jean Blair and children,but not anything else,they were living in Australia at the time of his death in 1957. thanks to all for your thoughts on this. also I looked up passenger lists around I am guessing 1920.there are alot of Jacksons?and I have no idea who is who.

Goldielocks,
How do you know that John Jackson served in WW1 and discharged in 1917?
I cannot find relevant military docs and his next of kin is usually listed on them.
I have 2 very large Jackson families in my tree, both families were from Lanarkshire.


Anne

Is this your grandfather? I can't find one born Motherwell, but Wishaw is close.


1901 Scotland Census about John Jackson
Name: John Jackson
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jane Jackson
Gender: Male
Where born: Wishaw, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil parish: Glasgow Springburn
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 39 Centre St
Occupation: Brick Layer
ED: 80
Household schedule number: 5
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1901_290
Household Members:
Name Age
John Jackson 21
Jane Jackson 19


You say you have the marriage certificate for John to your grandmother. Can you tell us his occupation and the name of his father and occupation please. When did he emigrate?

Ran a check on Scotland's People and found no marriage between John Jackson and Jean or Jane Blair.

Closest match was Thomas Jackson and Jane Blair who married in Partick, Glasgow in 1899

Just found out some more information about mt grandfathers 1st wifes name..it was Jean Blair,they had 2 children together,James,and Sarah,Sarah known as Sadie.Surname Jackson..If they were born in Scotland like my grandfather John Jackson,Iam guessing it would be around Lanarkshire,but I feel maybe James the older may have just been born,in Scotland or in Australia,but still can not find records???Its a guess but James must of been born around 1917-1922.From what I understand,Jean lived with Sadie around 1937- in Sydney Australia,and James was married. Thanks everyone for your help in this

Thanks for your reply regarding John married to Jean/Jane and children.Iam affraid I have only this information as mentioned,I dont know where they married,I have tried both countries,and no records of the children either? Iam at a dead end as I can not find a paper trail to lead me to them..Also I didnt want to relist them as the board keeps on reminding members not to do so. I do have the copy of Johns marriage to my grandmother and there is no mention of any previous marriage. Thanking you for your time, Regards Debra

Did John and Jean marry in Australia or Scotland please? Where were the children born?

When you search for John's marriage remember that if Jean was also Scottish that in Scotland Jean and Jane are interchangeable. Sadie's birth and / or marriage may be registered as Sarah as again Sadie and Sarah are interchangeable.

approx 1883, he was in the war in Scotland before he was discharged,in 1917. Thanks for your reply.

What date or year was John born?