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Elizabeth Thompson

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Kim

Kim Report 4 Sep 2010 15:13

Trying to find burial records of Elizabeth Thompson (nee Bowle) and marriage information of Frank Thompson's second marriage to Nellie Bartram, we have come to a brick wall with these?? Elizabeth was born in Aden Frank was born in Richmond.
Thanks Kim xx

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 4 Sep 2010 15:17

What time period?

Flick

Flick Report 4 Sep 2010 15:18

How can anyone hope to help you to find burial records if you don't say where and when this woman died?

As for second marriage - if it was before about 1940, look on freebmd

Again, though, you're not helping people to help you by not giving any location/date info

Kim

Kim Report 4 Sep 2010 15:26

I am so sorry, Elizabeth was 1853-1884 born in Aden died in Richmond Surrey, and we think Frank remarried somewhere near 1902 he also never left Richmond....again sorry xxxx

Flick

Flick Report 4 Sep 2010 15:31

Ok...all is forgiven.......

Have you looked for the second marriage?

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 4 Sep 2010 15:32

1881 for reference:

Name: Frank Thompson
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizth. Thompson
Gender: Male
Where born: Richmond, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Richmond
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: 3 St Helena Cottages
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Waterman & Boat Builder
Registration district: Richmond
Sub-registration district: Richmond
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Thompson 36
Elizth. Thompson 28 born Arabia
Thomas F. Thompson 8
Walter G. Thompson 5
Ethel G. Thompson 3

Flick

Flick Report 4 Sep 2010 15:35

Can't see Frank in 1911, so no way of knowing when he 're-married'

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 4 Sep 2010 15:37

Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%)
Thompson Frank 63 Richmond,S. 2a 238

Flick

Flick Report 4 Sep 2010 15:38

1901

Name: Frank Thompson
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Richmond, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Richmond
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Divine
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England



Registration district: Richmond
Sub-registration district: Richmond
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Thompson 52
Herbert J Thompson 11
James Thompson 9
Phillip Thompson 7
Helena Mary Thompson 2
Nellie Bartron 31 SERVANT
Emily Flokman 21

You say Elizabeth died in 1884......so who was the mother (or indeed mothers) of all of the children above? All born after that date..........................

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 4 Sep 2010 15:41

1911:
THOMPSON, Nellie Head Widow F 41 1870 Dress- Maker Richmond Surrey VIEW
MARSHALL, Rosa Boarder Widow F 60 1851 Westminster London VIEW
THOMPSON, Herbert Son Single M 20 1891 Chemist-Porter Richmond Surrey VIEW
THOMPSON, James S Son Single M 19 1892 Milk-Man Richmond Surrey VIEW
THOMPSON, Helena Daughter F 12 1899 School Richmond Surrey VIEW
THOMPSON, Frank Son M 8 1903 Richmond Surrey VIEW
THOMPSON, William Son M 4 1907 Richmond Surrey VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3599 Reference:
RG14PN3599 RG78PN135 RD41 SD1 ED19 SN55

Registration District:
Richmond Sub District:
Richmond Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Richmond

Address:
25 Houblon Road Richmond Surrey County:
Surrey

Flick

Flick Report 4 Sep 2010 15:42

1911.............

Person: THOMPSON, Helena
Address: 25 Houblon Road Richmond Surrey

Cost:
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THOMPSON, Nellie Head Widow F 41 1870 Dress- Maker Richmond Surrey VIEW
MARSHALL, Rosa Boarder Widow F 60 1851 Westminster London VIEW
THOMPSON, Herbert Son Single M 20 1891 Chemist-Porter Richmond Surrey VIEW
THOMPSON, James S Son Single M 19 1892 Milk-Man Richmond Surrey VIEW
THOMPSON, Helena Daughter F 12 1899 School Richmond Surrey VIEW
THOMPSON, Frank Son M 8 1903 Richmond Surrey VIEW
THOMPSON, William Son M 4 1907 Richmond Surrey VIEW

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3599 Reference:
RG14PN3599 RG78PN135 RD41 SD1 ED19 SN55

Flick

Flick Report 4 Sep 2010 15:44

Nellie states in 1911 that she was married 16 years, and lost 3 children during the marriage.

Clearly not a truthful lady, so you may have to accept that the 'marriage' simply didn't take place.

Flick

Flick Report 4 Sep 2010 15:48

1891...........Herbert was not Frank's son,

Name: Frank Thompson
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Richmond, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Richmond
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Richmond
Sub-registration district: Richmond
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Thompson 43
Thomas F Thompson 18
Walter G Thompson 16
Ethel G Thompson 13
Nellie Bartram 21
Herbert J Bartram 1


Kim

Kim Report 4 Sep 2010 15:56

I think you are right...Herbert was only Nellie's son not Franks but the rest must have been his, I am only asking all this as my mother insists that we owned the boats down by the River Thames in Richmond, and when my great grandfather Walter Thompson (Franks middle son) came back from the War (1914) it all went wrong....who or what Company if ever there was one took it???
We have a real family mystery here!!!!!

Thank you all for helping me out here...gratefully accepted xxxx

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 4 Sep 2010 16:35

1901:

Name: Walter G Thompson
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah A Thompson
Gender: Male
Where born: Richmond, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Richmond
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Boat builder

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Richmond
Sub-registration district: Richmond
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter G Thompson 25
Sarah A Thompson 23
Winifred A Thompson 1
Ethel R Haine 19

It looks as though Walter gave up boat building and moved to Hampshire between 1904 and 1907.

1911:
THOMPSON, Walter George Head Married
12 years M 34 1877 Rowing Boat Manager Richmond Surrey VIEW
THOMPSON, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 32 1879 South Toddington Mdx VIEW
THOMPSON, Winifred Daughter F 11 1900 School Isleworth Mdx VIEW
THOMPSON, Walter John Son M 7 1904 School Richmond Surrey VIEW
THOMPSON, George William Son M 4 1907 School Southbourne Hants VIEW
THOMPSON, Lilly Maud Daughter F 2 1909 Southbourne Hants VIEW
THOMPSON, Kathleen Elizabeth Daughter F 0 (5 MONTHS) 1911 Southbourne Hants VIEW
THOMPSON, Dorothy Alice Daughter F 0 (5 MONTHS) 1911 Southbourne Hants VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5823 Reference:
RG14PN5823 RG78PN266 RD95 SD1 ED15 SN114

Registration District:
Christchurch Sub District:
Christchurch Enumeration District:
15 Parish:
Bournemouth

Address:
Runnymede Priory Road Southbourne Christchurch County:
Hampshire

Kim

Kim Report 4 Sep 2010 17:29

Thank you so much xx