I have hit a brick wall in my research into my paternal lineage and wonder if the wider community can help ?
William George Hutton was born c1857 somewhere in London. sometime between 1857 and 1879 he either emigrated to New Zealand or was transported there as a criminal. His rough birth date and place comes from a birth certificate of my grandad of 1886 that states his father was 29 at the time. He married a Sarah Ann Johnson in 1879 at Wanganui in New Zealand and their marriage certificate does not hold any parentage details at all.
Any help in finding the missing London connection would be most helpful.
Thanking you in anticipation
Jackie Dexter
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This is the only William George Hutton birth registered between 1850 and 1860
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HUTTON William George Alverstoke 2b 409
There are to George Williams - the second one is the London area.
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1858 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hutton George William Ecclesall Bierlow 9c 225
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1858 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hutton George William Lambeth 1d 266
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This looks like the London chappie in 1881
Name: George W. Hutton Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas J. Hutton Mother's Name: Eliza Hutton Gender: Male Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England Civil parish: Newington County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 148 Trafalgar St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Blind Maker (H & Sh Fittgs) Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth ED, institution, or vessel: 21a Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas J. Hutton 43 Eliza Hutton 44 George W. Hutton 22 Harry Hutton 16 Emily Hutton 14 Arthur Hutton 11 Alice Hutton 8 Jessie Hutton 4
So that rules him out as your William.
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could this be him
1861 England Census about William G Hutton Name: William G Hutton Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Mary Hutton Gender: Male Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Poplar Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 142 Household Members: Name Age Mary Hutton 39 Charles J Hutton 10 Maria Hutton 8 Mary H Hutton 6 William G Hutton 4 Hannah Jones 62 Elizabeth Jones 21
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Thanks to you all
The Alverstoke one can be ruled out as that is in Hampshire and the copy of His sons birth certificate from down under clearly states that he was from London
The 1881 census can also be ruled out as by that time he was in New Zealand.
Whilst it is not unknown for christian names to be switched around I do not think that this has happened in this case.
However the 1861 census does look interesting and I had seen this on the FreeBMd site. Does the original entry by any chance have what the second initial might be and also what relationship are the two Jones's that are listed (possible mother in law and sister in law?)
Thanks again and if anyone looking at this in the future recognises any of the above then please message me.
Jackie
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Just thought that I had better add their children as I know that names can run in families and this might help to identify Williams siblings and parents a bit better.
Ann Elizabeth born 1880 in New Zealand William Henry born 1881 in New Zealand Sidney James born 1883 in Australia Reginald Spencer born 1884 in Australia Albert Ernest born 1886 in Australia Edith Mary born 1888 in New Zealand Kathleen Selina Alice born 1893 in New Zealand
Thanks again
Jackie
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More detail from the actual image of that 1861 census.
Address 4 Lion Street,Poplar, Tower Hamlets
Household Members: Name Age Mary Hutton 39 Head, Widow, Tailoress, b. Poplar Charles J Hutton 10 Son, b. Poplar Maria Hutton 8 Daughter, b. Poplar Mary H Hutton 6 Daughter, b. Poplar William G Hutton 4 Hannah Jones 62 Visitor, Widow, b. Essex Elizabeth Jones 21 Visitor, Charwoman, b. Poplar
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Hi all Anne Elizabeth is my G grand mother she married Edwin Brown there son George Henry Edwin my grandfather died in Masterton NZ in 1979 That makes william george my gg grandfather. Rex
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Hi Rex, and welcome to GR - looks as if you have found a relative in Jaqueline. :-)
As she started this thread in Sep 2010, there is a chance that she won't realise there is another reply. It might be best if you send her a Personal Message (PM) by clicking on her name. Even if she is now a lapsed member, if she still has the same email address, she will be able to read your PM and reply.
Good luck
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I would like to thank everyone for their contribution, it turned out to be a real detective story and would never have been sorted out without the help of Nadia.
It turns out that William George was actually born as a Harrison and changed his name later in life, presumably when he went to New Zealand. We know it is the same person by a number of other references/records that have been uncovered and prove beyond dispute that it is the same person. He took the name of his natural father despite his mother /father not being married and the birth was registered under the mothers name
Once again, thanks to everyone for your help
Jackie
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