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Charles Mostyn Davies 1828

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Geoff

Geoff Report 22 Sep 2010 07:09

I would like to trace the ancestors of Charles who was born 29/05/1828 and baptised 29 JUN 1828 St. Peter. Carmarthen, Wales. Parents are believed to be David (or Charles) Davies & Margaret Morgan
Place of marriage: Llanfairarybryn, Carmarthen, Wales, England.
Date of marriage: 10 AUG 1821
Charles Mostyn Davies married Ellen Legge in Woodend, Victoria 26 SEP 1855 and he died in 1907.
Particularly interested in where the name Mostyn entered this family. Perhaps someone can help through siblings Eliza 1824, Maria 1826, Sarah 1830?
Cheers
Geoff

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 22 Sep 2010 07:34

Hi Geoff.

Regarding the word "Mostyn" in Charles Mostyn Davies

It wasnt unusual for many of our early pioneers that came to Australian colony, to add a mothers maiden name or Ancestral name as a middle name, or a name that symbolized their home land/birth place, and adding to their names ( superstition) or carrying a part of their homeland with them.

Many of my own early ancestors from the U.K to Aussie added their birth village names as a middle name.

From a forename/surname theasaurus i see that
the meaning of the name "Mostyn".... is From The Mossy Town

The origin of the name "Mostyn" is Welsh.

Mostyn is a small village in Flintshire, North Wales, lying on the estuary of the River Dee, and located near the town of Holywell.




I may be absolutley wrong, but its a possible?


Tony ( Vic.Australia )

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Sep 2010 09:32

There is also a surname Mostyn in the same area as I have one on my tree.
also linked with Davies

BEATA MOSTYN Pedigree
Female Family
Marriages:
Spouse: JOHN DAVIES Family
Marriage: 09 JUL 1815 Saint Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England



1841 Address: Kelsterton, Northop, Kelsterton
DAVIES, Bealla W F 45 1796 Flintshire
DAVIES, Gorge M 20 1821 Flintshire
DAVIES, Prudence F 15 1826 Flintshire
DAVIES, Danieel M 11 1830 Flintshire
DAVIES, Charles M 9 1832 Flintshire
DAVIES, William M 7 1834 Flintshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Sep 2010 09:40

CHARLES DAVIES Pedigree
Male
Event(s):
Birth: 29 MAY 1828
Christening: 29 JUN 1828 Carmarthen Saint Peter, Carmarthen, Wales
Parents:
Father: DAVID DAVIES Family
Mother: MARGARET
Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church.
Source Information:
Batch Number: 7513431
Sheet: 24
Source Call No.: 1058075

I presume this is where you found your info.
THIS IS A SUBMITTED RECORD AND SHOULD BE TREATED WITH CAUTION

Geoff

Geoff Report 23 Sep 2010 01:36

Thanks very much Tony and Lady Kira
I have just found a family of possible interest in 1841 census at Nannerch, Flintshire
Thomas Davies c1786 (not born in same county)
Maria Davies c1781 probably his wife born in same county
Mary Mostyn c1746 (95 years old!) possibly Maria's mother born in same county
Living with Harrison and Jones families

So now if anyone has access to marriages in Flintshire of Mostyn family, I would be grateful to see if we can trace Mary Mostyn c1746 and get her maiden name.
Tracing Thomas Davies would seem to be more difficult.

name: Masten;Mostyn
Origin: Welsh. Local
Comment: A place or house inclosed, from Maes, a field, and din, inclosed, fortified. Moestuin, in the Teutonic and Dutch, signifies a garden, a place cultivated. The Gaelic dun, and the Welsh din, a fortified hill or fort, are synonymous. The Saxon tun signifies an inclosure, a garden, a village, a town, and tun or tuin, in Dutch, a garden, a protected place. Camden relates, that in the time of Henry VIII., an ancient worshipful gentleman of Wales being called at the panel of a jury by the name of Thomas-Ap-William-Ap-Thomas-Ap-Hoel-Ap-Euan Vaughn, etc., was advised by the judge to leave that old manner. Whereupon, he afterward called himself Mostyn, according to the name of his principal house, and left that surname to his posterity. Mostyn, a village in Flintshire, Wales. On Mostyn hill, in Flintshire, Wales, is a remarkable monument to the sun, a place of Druid worship.
An Etymological Dictionary of Family and Christian Names. With an Essay, on their Derivation and Import

Cheshiremaid

Cheshiremaid Report 23 Sep 2010 01:47


You could email Flintshire Records direct...they may be able to help.

Email: [email protected]

Linda

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 23 Sep 2010 02:26

LadyKira -- might Geoff want to look at that other ginormous thread? The one about Robert Mostyn Davies and the Littlers?

... The search function is taking me in an endless loop. Might you have it bookmarked?

I'm not going to try to even guess, but maybe something ties in ...


Here we are, it finally broke out of the loop:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1218512

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 23 Sep 2010 08:56

Do look at the thread Geoff.
I can only see a tenuous link at the moment but you may find a clue.
I just wanted to point out that it was a name as well.

Geoff

Geoff Report 24 Sep 2010 05:20

Wow, an 8-page thread!
I will contact Flintshire archives, thanks.