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Hello everyone,

Could some one help me please!!

I ,m trying to find out if a ancester of mine John L Clark b 1877 was in a hospital around 1911.
i know there was one in Bilston around Broad st off High st , top end of town.
Is it possible that someone could look that up please ??
it would be most helpful as i am having difficulty in finding him after 1901. Thanking you all for your time .

Flo

Sorry ,will have to sign off now will be back tomorrow ,

Flo

Hi Flo,

I would edit your title to include "1911 look up"


Dee x

where was he born ? Bilston or somewhere else.

there is this one

1911 census transcription details for: 45 Oxford Street Bilston

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN17120 RG78PN1054 RD369 SD7 ED9 SN13


Reg. District: Wolverhampton Sub District: Bilston
Parish: Bilston Enum. District: 9

Address: 45 Oxford Street Bilston
County: Staffordshire


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

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CLARKE, Edward Head Married M 53 1858 Watch Repairer Perthingham Stafford

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CLARKE, Margeret Ellen Wife Married
31 years F 51 1860 Assisting In Business Tomlergrave Chesshire

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CLARKE, John Son Single M 33 1878 Plimber And Cott Newcastle Un Lyme Staff

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CLARKE, Fredrick Son Single M 27 1884 Pattern Maker Blythe Bridge Staf

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CLARKE, Ferbert Son Single M 21 1890 Iron Worker Fitter John St Bilston

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CLARKE, Florie Daughter Single F 18 1893 In Service Salop St Bradley Biston

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CLARKE, Aden Daughter Single F 16 1895 Oxford St Bilston

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CLARKE, Harry Son Single M 12 1899 At School Oxford St Bilston

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CLARKE, Edward Grandson Sing M 9 1902 At School Orchard Bilston

John's occ is Plumber

The only one I can see in a hospital, who has a relevant birthplace, is this one:

CLARKE, John Alfred Patient Single M 36 1875 Engineer Staffordshire Handsworth VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16687 Reference:
RG14PN16687 RD363 SD2 ED12 SN1

Registration District:
Cheadle Sub District:
Ipstones Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
Cheddleton

Address:
Cheddleton Leek County:
Staffordshire

Hello Dee, and all the good people who have tried to help,

I have done the 1911 look up but the only people are found
was maybe wife and daugh in oxford st Bilston Annie / AnnieClarke
so i,m wandering if he was in hospital at the time.
I also found a possible death for him in 1912 so thats why
maybe in hospital.
His name John Lewis ( louis )Clark b BILSTON 1877 i got info on records but deleted because not allowed to have 2 posts at once.
I thought better on History as thats the info i was looking for if there was an hospital around there and if someone could check. Its the hospital i am looking for .
I,m sure there was one around there.
And if there was if someone could look in records ?

Sorry to have had to leave it last night hope i have not caused too much trouble .
and thank you all for your interest .

by the way he was a puddler
Also i know there is newcross hospital wolv. if someone can check thier records .i would be most grateful.
Flo.
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So, just to clarify - you are unable to find him 1911 and you think he died 1912. Hence you are thinking he might have been in hospital. I think you need to establish if he died first before going down that route. He should still be on census in any case.

Can you put what death record you mean please?

Just a suggestion:

MILLS, Elizabeth Head Widow F 57 1854 None Bilston Staff VIEW
CHAPMAN, Jane Domestic Servant Single F 20 1891 Bilston Staff VIEW
CHAPMAN, Joseph Lodger Widower M 62 1849 Labourer Bilston Staff VIEW
MORRIS, George Lodger Single M 46 1865 Labourer Wolverhampton Staff VIEW
CLARK, John Lodger Married M 31 1880 Labourer Bilston Staff VIEW
HUMPHRIES, John Lodger Widower M 57 1854 Labourer Bradley Staff VIEW
THOMPSON, James Lodger Single M 64 1847 French Polisher Scarborough York VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17120 Reference:
RG14PN17120 RG78PN1054 RD369 SD7 ED9 SN307

Registration District:
Wolverhampton Sub District:
Bilston Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Bilston

Address:
6 Wood Street Bilston Staffordshire County:
Staffordshire

Hello Brummiejan,

I will start from the beginning !
He was last seen on 1901 with his parents John / Margaret.Temple st Bilston there is also a daugh/inlaw Annie.
I matched John Clark to Annie Jones 1898.
A 1911 search was done but cannot find John only possible wife and daugh named Annie / Annie in a lodging house Oxford st Bilston. Annie was born Willenhall
so would have been reg Walsall
there is a death in 1912 Walsall for a John Clark so was just wandering if thats where they lived after marriage
because on the 1901 she was a visiter so there for did not live at that address.

He was a puddler. the parents of John died 1901/2 so he would not be with them.
Oxford st seems to me when my ancesters were in trouble headed there, as quite afew rellies lived around that area.

You are quite right about finding out whether he died but i wanted to find out whether everything fitted first before spending money
i was pretty sure there was some kind of hospital around that area .
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Thank you for looking for me Flo

sorry will have to go now ,
will have a look tomorrow to see if someone has anymore info. hope so pleaseee!

Flo

As you seem determined to find out about a possible hospital, have you tried a google search?

Are you sure he married Annie Jones? I'm a bit concerned as you have some very common names here. Going down the route of the death of a John Clark in Walsall seems a bit of a leap.

Jan

Why do you think he was in Hospital? I am a bit concerned here that you are trying to go forward in time and find something that 'fits'

Far better to work backwards from solid known facts .You say this person was an ancestor, in that case what is your relationship going backwards?

I think you need to post 1901 details onto here. I imagine this is his birth?

Births Jun 1876 (>99%)
CLARK John Lewis Wolverhampton 6b 709

Jan

1901

CLARK, John Head Married M 52 1849 Iron Worker In Forge
Bilston
Staffordshire VIEW
CLARK, Margret Wife Married F 47 1854
Bilston
Staffordshire VIEW
CLARK, William Son Single M 24 1877 Iron Worker In Forge
Bilston
Staffordshire VIEW
CLARK, John Son Single M 23 1878 Iron Worker In Forge
Bilston
Staffordshire VIEW
CLARK, Thomas Son Single M 21 1880 Iron Worker In Forge
Bilston
Staffordshire VIEW
CLARK, Teresa Daughter Single F 9 1892
Bilston
Staffordshire VIEW
CLARK, Annie Daughter-In-Law Married F 31 1870
Willenhall
Staffordshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2689 Folio:
110 Page:
7

Registration District:
Wolverhampton Sub District:
Bilston Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mary's the Virgin

Civil Parish:
Bilston Municipal Borough:
Address:
28, Temple Street, Bilston County:
Staffordshire

Age a bit out, but he is working in a forge which fits with occupation (I think!). Married 4 years, 1 child.:

MILLS, Elizabeth Head Widow F 57 1854 None Bilston Staff VIEW
CHAPMAN, Jane Domestic Servant Single F 20 1891 Bilston Staff VIEW
CHAPMAN, Joseph Lodger Widower M 62 1849 Labourer Bilston Staff VIEW
MORRIS, George Lodger Single M 46 1865 Labourer Wolverhampton Staff VIEW
CLARK, John Lodger Married M 31 1880 Labourer Bilston Staff VIEW
HUMPHRIES, John Lodger Widower M 57 1854 Labourer Bradley Staff VIEW
THOMPSON, James Lodger Single M 64 1847 French Polisher Scarborough York VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17120 Reference:
RG14PN17120 RG78PN1054 RD369 SD7 ED9 SN307

Registration District:
Wolverhampton Sub District:
Bilston Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Bilston

Address:
6 Wood Street Bilston Staffordshire County:
Staffordshire

Hello Everyone,
so sorry was so busy yesterday never had time to come back on line.

I know its a little far fetched but have been looking for this fellow for a long time after 1901 , He is my grandfather William.s brother, Thomas the other brother also is hard to find but may have wrong marriage, for him which was pointed out by someone . But John cannot find anything concrete. Only marriage in 1898 to Annie Jones.
Thier parents John / Margaret died 1901/2
William landed up in stoke n trent when he married my grandmother 1906 then came back to Bilston thier sister Theresa went to live with her auntie in
Liverpool but John / Thomas nothing but i am trying another marriage for Thomas. The one i had was 1903 Maria Fitzpatrick but there ia a Annie Maria on same page.
I never knew my grandparents , the only story i had was
that rellies of that family ran a cake shop/cafe in Bilston
later on in years so either off John line or Thomas,s.
from money inherited but from who? It may have been left by thier parents or maybe one of them died leaving money ? i was told William was done out of his share!!
It could be cousins for all i know ?

I think i will have to send for marriage of John just to make sure .
Thanks Everyone for your advise and so sorry for not being on here yesterday,

Brummiejan, do not think thats him as he got married before 1901 so that does not fit . (unless married twice ?) thankyou anyway.
By the way all the births for them on 1901 census that choccy has put on i have found to be 2 yrs out. William my grandad b 1875.

Flo

I do not believe this visiters !!!!!

So sorry will have to go again,!!

please forgive me , like i said probably send for marriage and see whether i am on right track first .

night !
Flo

How do yo know he married Annie Jones?
Jan

Hello Brummiejan,

Thats what i am going to do is send for marriage just to make sure,
The reason is on 1901 there is a Annie daugh inlaw married. The only one she could have been married to was John as the others got married after 1901.
And the only marriage that matched John was 1898 to a Annie Jones.
here,s hoping !!
thanks for your interest !
Flo