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Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Eileen	Report	17 Oct 2010 21:59
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Please please can anyone help, I think I may have been following the wrong Phoebe. My grandmother Phoebe Jane Hollyhead 1876 was married to Arthur Jones. Phoebe was born in or near Dudley and they were married in 1903. What I would like to know is who were her parents. Thanks Eileen
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:03
	Eileen do you have her marriage cert for her father's name? Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%) Hollyhead Phoebe Dudley 6c 157 JONES Arthur Dudley 6c 157 because there are also Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%) Hollyhead Phoebe Jane W Bromwich 6b 1328 Marriages Mar 1907 (>99%) Hollyhead Phoebe Shardlow 7b 768
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Member Since: May 2008 Posts: 5,162 Send Message	Jonesey	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:06
	Her birth certificate should answer that question for certain: Births Mar 1876 (>99%) Holyhead Phoebe Jane W.Bromwich 6b 927 Two options in 1881: Name: Phebe Hollyhead Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Hollyhead Mother's Name: Susanna Hollyhead Gender: Female Where born: Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Wednesbury County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: 23 Church St Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: Wednesbury ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Hollyhead 28 Susanna Hollyhead 26 William Hollyhead 7 John Hollyhead 6 Phebe Hollyhead 5 George Hollyhead 2 Henry Hollyhead >>or Name: Pheobe Hollyhead Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Hollyhead Mother's Name: Pheobe Hollyhead Gender: Female Where born: Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Sedgley County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: 26 Regent St Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Sedgley ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Hollyhead 41 Pheobe Hollyhead 40 Florence Hollyhead 8 Edith Hollyhead 6 Pheobe Hollyhead 4 Mary Hollyhead 2 Elizabeth Hollyhead 1 John Hollyhead
	Researching: Don't put off until tomorrow doing what you can do today. If you like doing it today you can do it again tomorrow. Be kind to your children for it is they who will decide which care home you end up in.
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:06
	Births Dec 1885 (>99%) Hollyhead Phebe W. Bromwich 6b 811
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:08
	Why not buy her birth cert ?
	Researching: For better results please give all the details ,name, date place as you can {pictures by me }
Member Since: August 2005 Posts: 748 Send Message	Katie	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:08
Member Since: August 2005 Posts: 748 Send Message	Is this her in 1881? HOLLYHEAD, William Head Married M 28 1853 Coal Miner Wednesbury Staffordshire HOLLYHEAD, Susanna Wife Married F 26 1855 Worcester Worcestershire HOLLYHEAD, William Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar Wednesbury Staffordshire HOLLYHEAD, John Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar Wednesbury Staffordshire HOLLYHEAD, Phebe Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Wednesbury Staffordshire HOLLYHEAD, George Son Single M 2 1879 Wednesbury Staffordshire HOLLYHEAD, Henry Son Single M 0 1881 Wednesbury Staffordshire RG number: RG11 Piece: 2853 Folio: 69 Page: 39 Registration District: West Bromwich Sub District: Wednesbury Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Wednesbury Municipal Borough: Address: 23, Church St, Wednesbury County: Staffordshire And her birth Births Mar 1876 Holyhead Phoebe Jane W.Bromwich 6b 927
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:08
	this is the one born 1885 then 1901 England Census about Phoebe Hollyhead Name: Phoebe Hollyhead Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Hollyhead Mother's Name: Elizabeth Hollyhead Gender: Female Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: West Bromwich Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: West Bromwich, North East ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 94 Household Members: Name Age James Hollyhead 65 Elizabeth Hollyhead 55 Emma J Hollyhead 18 Phoebe Hollyhead 15 John Hollyhead 12 James Porter 11
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Member Since: July 2006 Posts: 21,823 Send Message	brummiejan	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:10
	This looks like the Phoebe married 1903 - does it check out? 1911 JONES, Arthur Head Married M 34 1877 Fitter Staffordshire Bilston VIEW JONES, Phoebe Wife Married 8 years F 34 1877 Staffordshire Woodsctton VIEW JONES, Nancy Daughter F 6 1905 Staffordshire Smethwick VIEW JONES, Charles Son M 4 1907 Staffordshire Smethwick VIEW JONES, Arthur Son M 3 1908 Staffordshire Smethwick VIEW JONES, Eric Son M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Staffordshire Smethwick VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 17968 Reference: RG14PN17968 RG78PN1094 RD383 SD4 ED26 SN131 Registration District: Kings Norton Sub District: Smethwick Enumeration District: 26 Parish: Smethwick Address: 61 Victoria Street West Smethwick County: Worcestershire
	Researching: Myatt, Hanks, Eccleston, Powell, Clungunford, Birmingham
Member Since: May 2008 Posts: 5,162 Send Message	Jonesey	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:14
	JONES, Phoebe Wife Married 8 years F 34 1877 Staffordshire Woodsctton VIEW Woodsetton is part of Dudley. It is close to Sedgley.
	Researching: Don't put off until tomorrow doing what you can do today. If you like doing it today you can do it again tomorrow. Be kind to your children for it is they who will decide which care home you end up in.
Member Since: October 2005 Posts: 54,131 Send Message	Ann	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:16
	Is this not her?? census - household transcription Person: HOLYHEAD, Phoebe J Address: 32, Lea Brook Square, Tipton Cost: You will be charged 5 credits for a transcript and 5 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records. census search results all search results redefine current search Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born Original census image -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOLYHEAD, William Head Married M 39 1852 Miner Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW HOLYHEAD, Susannah Wife Married F 36 1855 Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW HOLYHEAD, William G Son Single M 17 1874 Iron Worker Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW HOLYHEAD, John T Son Single M 16 1875 Iron Worker Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW HOLYHEAD, Phoebe J Daughter Single F 15 1876 Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW HOLYHEAD, George Son Single M 12 1879 Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW HOLYHEAD, Henry Son M 10 1881 Scholar Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW HOLYHEAD, James Son M 9 1882 Scholar Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW HOLYHEAD, Charles Son M 7 1884 Scholar Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW HOLYHEAD, Sarah A Daughter F 3 1888 Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 2286 Folio: 23 Page: 8 Registration District: Dudley Sub District: Tipton Enumeration District: 23 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Marks Civil Parish: Tipton Municipal Borough: Address: 32, Lea Brook Square, Tipton County: Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- census search results all search results redefine current search © findmypast.co.uk
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Eileen	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:19
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	No Rose I'm sorry I don't but I think it was most likely to be Dudley
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Eileen	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:21
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	could be west Brom
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Eileen	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:30
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Thank you Jonesey,I followed the William and Susannah line but my other contacts have her as being married bigamously to a John Humphreys which is where the confusion starts, I don't have a birth certificate for her and didn't know that it was possible to get one. Thanks so much
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Eileen	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:34
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Thanks katie, this is the one I feel is my grandmother but it doesn't tally with my other contacts. Could be they have got it wrong
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Eileen	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:38
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	I thing my Phoebe was born in Wolverhampton but can't be sure. She did have four children, Arthur, Eric, Nancy and Charles, but three of them died in childhood
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:42
	Eileen so you're sure that your Phoebe is the one that married Jones, ie that the children you name are 'Jones'? in which case that marriage cert is essential to have for her father's name and her age.
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Member Since: July 2006 Posts: 21,823 Send Message	brummiejan	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:42
	Eileen, she is obviously the Phoebe I posted in 1911 above - children's names match. Born Woodsetton. jan
	Researching: Myatt, Hanks, Eccleston, Powell, Clungunford, Birmingham
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Eileen	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:47
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Thank you Brummiejan this is definitely the one but i have not been able to find out for sure who her parents were
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Eileen	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:50
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Thank you RR I will get a copy. The children were Joneses. My father was Arthur
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Eileen	Report	17 Oct 2010 22:59
Member Since: December 2008 Posts: 40 Send Message	Thank you everyone. It looks pretty certain to me that my great grandparents were William and Susannah and My Phoebe was not a bigamist but i will still get her marriage certificate

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