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trying to work out if Kettering was in Lancashire area in the 1690"s

or was it in Northamptonshire??

Have the boundaries changed

there seem a possibility for a John Lyon born about 1695 in Lancashire

John Lyon baptized 07 June 1693 son of George Lyon of Liverpool.

I think I may have sorted it out

John Lyon {"Top of the Tree" } 1695 married Sarah Holmes in Newton in the Willows Northamptonshire on 21 April 1720
is the CORRECT family.

Sorry I have been confusing everyone else as well as my self.

The second John who married a Sarah Bamford is grandson of the fIrst John.

Wedding record states "John Lyon of Kettering to Sarah Holmes of Kettering at Newton Le Willows St Faith's Church of England on 21 April 1720"

So now I have moved my search for PARENTS of John Lyon born about 1695 Kettering area.
I realise all these places are close to each other, but Im hoping this tack will turn up something else.

Already found out that about 40 men were taken prisoner in Saint Faith's church during the 1609 peasants revolt against inclosure.
They were later hung and quartered.

A gruesome thing that ancestors may have been involved in.

thank you everyone,

yes I found out that certs only refer to post 1837.

since my last post of 31 Oct I have looked for wills at the above mentioned site, but unfortunately no mention.

Have also been conversing with member 0372 of Northamptonshire Family History society, and that is why I updated my thread today. as I realised from from the details he gave that probably I had the wrong wife.
Looks like there are two John Lyon with wife Sarah/
One being Sarah Holmes
The other Sarah Unknown

www.northants-familytree.net/northants%20marrriages%20look%20ups.htm

The above link takes you to a look up service...Free, just send e mail address.

Chris :)

(found by googling)

Re your question about wills: the National Archives has some early wills in their Documents on line. The images can be downloaded:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/wills.asp

To answer your question of 31st October......until July 1837, there were no such items as certs.

Certs only started being issued when the GRO came into being.

update.
the John Lyon who married Sarah Holmes in 1720 at Newton Le Willows IS the family I must research.
BUT
There is another
John Lyon married Sarah..........unknown
as the first child born 1727, marriage would be about that year

This is the family details now:
LDS film 537224
Husband
John Lyon birth 1695 of Cranford St John
Burial 24 Nov 1757
Wife
Sarah ...... Birth about 1699 of Cranford St John
Burial 25th August 1773 C. ST. J


Children of the above parents

John bap. 30 Jan 1727 C St Andrew; his burial at Cranford St Andrew 23 May 1762

Elizabeth bap. 05 April 1730

Luke bap. 07 May 1732

Eleanor bap. 05 May 1734. married Edward Hull on 12 Oct 1766

William bap. 31 May 1737 burial 23 April 1777. married Mary Houghton on 10 July 1761

Mary bap. 09 April 1740

do you think I should send for the marriage cert?

Thank you Mark, how do I find if a will was left for the date November 1757 ?

I am an Australian member and use the net for my initial research and then send for the certs etc.

Where can I look up wills for Cranford St Andrew Northamptonshire?

Was a Will left... this my lead to other family members being listed and a clue to the maiden name

thanks,
i have tried Family search, and free reg but cant get past what I have shared.

None of the trees on Ancestry have his parents or Sarah's surname.

Maryb

Looking for more information. This time on Robert and Richard Lyon of Weekley NTHS; brothers of John whose will was proved 1598. Weekley;
so born in the 1500's

Further progress on ancestors of John Lyon born 1696
go to last page of this thread.

not sure if he was born in Cranford or not,
but
He married Sarah at St Faith, Newton in the Willows Northamptonshire in 1720.

he was buried on 24 Nov 1757 at Cranford St Andrew.

Trying to work out Sarah surname. Thinking it may be Holmes
EDIT :yes it is

would like to find John's parents.