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I have discovered more information. My grandmother is ELIZABETH MARY SMITH nee MARTIN.
She was born sometime around 1883/4 in London.
I first obtained a copy of mother's birth certificate to confirm that my grandmother was formerly MARTIN and was then able to obtain my grandparent's marriage certificate
Her mother is unknown. On her marriage certificate of 25/12/1902 her father's name is JOSEPH MARTIN deceased, Boot Maker. She is 19 on marriage, in church by Banns.
The witnesses were an elderly clerk and a 14 year old girl. I have not been able to find who gave consent for the marriage. Elizabeth Mary regarded Mary Ann Warwicker as her mother, and registered her death in 1915.
Joseph Martin died a week before the census of 1901, 22 March 1901. His was 82, making him 62 when Elizabeth was boirn. A family note says Mary Ann Warwicker was housekeeper to J Martin, whom I thought was John in 1985 when I took notes.
I traced the RAE family. MARTHA was Joseph's daughter born Kettering.
In august this year I obtained a copy on spec of a birth certificate for an Elizabeth Mary. That turned out to be a workhouse birth without a father for 29/9/1884. The mother was MARY ANN MARTIN and the witness Sarah Frost.
Today I made some search and discovered that the Mary Ann Martin who I thought was Elizabeth's birth mother gave birth to an illegitimate son, HENRY JOSEPH MARTIN on 23/8/1879 at the Southwark Infirmary and that is the only address on the birth certificate.
On 15/10/1883 she married RICHARD BAILEY. She gave her address as 25 Orb Street Walworth.
She gave Henry up for adoption, but it might have failed because I found a Henry Martin in an Institution for boys in 1891.
Mary Ann now BAILEY gave birth to a daughter, MARTHA on 12/5/1884. The address was 31 Brandon Street.
SHE COULD NOT THEREFORE HAVE BEEN THE MARY ANN GIVING BIRTH TO THE ELIZABETH MARY MARTIN on 29 Sept 1884.
That means that if she was my grandmother's birth mother she must have given birth either early in 1883 or 1880/83. In 1901 they are in Lestock Place, the address on my grandmother's marriage certificate, but Nanny was not living there in 1901.
In census 1901 Mary Ann Warwicker was a patient in the Infirmary, as her name and correct place of birth. She is described as a widow, though she was not.
Elizabeth Mary's whereabouts in 1901 is a mistery.
Mary Ann Warwicker gave birth to her youngest child in 1880. She was living with her family in 1881, and did not give birth to a daughter.
1891 census has Joseph living 106 Brandon St with a wife, Mary Ann and daughter Elizabeth 6.
If he did father the child, he did so by his daughter Mary Ann.
There is no evidence now that the birth certificate ismay not be EMM's that her mother was a Mary Ann Martin.
It is curious that she would name the child Elizabeth, and then the child named my mother Elizabeth, and then me and so forth, so I have come to think that we should be looking for a birth mother name of Elizabeth Martin.
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