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Taia
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19 Dec 2010 22:17 |
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I am looking for any information on CATHERINE MARION BENNETT, believed to have been born in Dublin about 1894 or earlier. For a while in 1911 she was living in London. Please help! Taia
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19 Dec 2010 22:29 |
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Could Catherine be a Kate ignore that I clicked on 1911
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JaneyCanuck
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19 Dec 2010 22:52 |
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Why don't you tell us what you know about her? If you didn't know something, you wouldn't be looking for her!
Her parents? Siblings? Did she have a child while in London?
What is "any information"? We sure do see that a lot here. Are you wanting to trace her ancestors? descendants?
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The instructions do say to offer all the information you have. And there's little point in people looking for things you already know.
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19 Dec 2010 22:58 |
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This is the only Catherine Bennett in London in the 1911 census who was born in Ireland:
BENNETT CATHERINE M JACKSON 1879 32 Islington London
http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx
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Taia
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20 Dec 2010 23:53 |
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Thanks, everyone, it's wonderful to know you're out there, pen in hand. Catherine Marion Bennett was my father's mother and "Patrick de Burca" was his father. My father was born in London in 1911, spent most of his childhood in an orphanage in Cornwall and had very little memory of his mother. The only information we have on her is from his birth certificate. In 2007, when I got access to the census by address, I found she was born in Dublin. The writing on the census looked as if she had altered her age so could have been born as late as 1894. I went to Dublin to look for births and unfortunately got on to a false lead and didn't get anywhere. I've also looked for subsequent marriages in the U.K. for her without success. Sydney to Dublin is a long, long way to go back to look again. Other than being our grandmother, I know nothing more. The name de Burca (for Burke) only began to be used by the Irish around the early 1900s and would not have been the birth name of his father, so here also lies another possible dead end. Thanks again everyone, Taia
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21 Dec 2010 00:11 |
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Census 1901???
Name: Catherine Bennett Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1891 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Bennett Mother's name: Mary Ann Bennett Gender: Female Where born: Dublin, Ireland Civil Parish: Tottenham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Tottenham ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 375 Household Members: Name Age William Bennett 36 c1865 Dublin, Ireland. Stationary engine driver Mary Ann Bennett 31 c1870 Dublin, Ireland. Sarah Bennett 14 c1887 Dublin, Ireland. >>>Catherine Bennett 10 c1891 Dublin, Ireland. Susanah Bennett 6 c1895 Tottenham, London, England. Elizabeth Bennett 3 c1898 Tottenham, London, England. Margareta Bennett 1 c1900 Tottenham, London, England. Louisa Kett 30 William Kett 16 Address 10 Newton Rd
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JaneyCanuck
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21 Dec 2010 00:50 |
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I wonder whether gambling on some certificates might pay off?
This marriage could match with Kucinta's Catherine:
Marriages Jun 1912 Bennett Catherine M Brooks Edmonton 3a 1214 Brooks Charles E Bennett Edmonton 3a 1214
Does the 1911 marriage certificate give an occupation for Patrick, or Catherine?
And this looks like the 1901 Catherine, in 1911 (answers to search for born in Dublin):
BENNETT CATHRINE 1893 18 Edmonton Middlesex
living with BENNETT MARGARET 1901 10 Edmonton Middlesex BENNETT ELIAZABETH 1898 13 Edmonton Middlesex BENNETT SUSAN 1895 16 Edmonton Middlesex BENNETT SARAH 1890 21 Edmonton Middlesex BENNETT MARY ANN 1872 39 Edmonton Middlesex BENNETT WILLIAM 1866 45 Edmonton Middlesex
so yes, that's the same one.
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JaneyCanuck
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21 Dec 2010 00:57 |
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Of course ...
"In 2007, when I got access to the census by address, I found she was born in Dublin. The writing on the census looked as if she had altered her age so could have been born as late as 1894. "
You don't want to share those details -- what census that is, who her family was ... ?
It's really kind of pointless to ask for help and not give the info you have, you see.
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Taia
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21 Dec 2010 06:52 |
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I do apologise, Janey, a bit new at this researching and didn't want to overload with stuff but I see that it is important. This family of Catherine Mary Bennett, born in 1 Blackpitts, Sth Dublin is the one I was chasing. They also had a daughter about 20 mths earlier given the same name. That one died so the next was given the same name. When the whole family went to Middlesex, the father filled in the census form and put ages of a couple of his daughters incorrectly including Catherine Mary. This does seem to be the one who married Charles Brooks in 1912. I’ve also chased marriage certificates in England for a further six Catherine Ms and five were Catherine Mary and one a Catherine Margaret. When the 1911 census became generally available by name, I found that the two Catherines were both at home at two different addresses on the same day and therefore must have been different people. On my father's birth certificate (Bernard, Brandon, Rupert, Erc Deburca b.6th Apr., 1911) his father appears as Patrick Deburca, a civil engineer and his mother as Catherine Marion Deburca, formerly Bennett without any further information. I got a photocopy of the original 1911 census by address from the National Archives in 2007 and in it Catherine Marion appeared as being "Deburca" and "single", living on her own means and with unrelated people. I visited this house in 2001 and was told by a local historian that it was a boarding house where single mothers would stay. During his early life in the U.K. my father had some of his expenses for education paid for via a Fr. Hyde and by someone in secret. I believe they were also covering her living expenses while she was carrying him. He tried desperately to find out where the money came from before he came to Australia in 1936 but was unable to break the church secrecy. He also had a faint memory that she may have been 17 when he was born. I did have several certificates relating the Catherine Mary and when I found someone of the same family in Dublin, I posted them to them. I’ve also tried the archives of the Sisters of Mercy orphanage without any luck. Perhaps it’s possible her birth wasn’t recorded. Do you know if there is any way of researching Irish marriage certificates from 1911 onwards to maybe pick her up? Regards, Taia
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