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Alexander BROWN born abt 1892

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B1

B1 Report 19 Dec 2010 22:17

I've just received a marriage cert for Alexander BROWN who married in Nov 1913. His residence at time of marriage was 131 Boaler Street West Derby, his occupation was Corporation Labourer and his father was Robert Brown (deceased).

As there are quite a few Alexander Brown's in the area born about the same time I can't order his Birth Cert (he might not have been born in the area either).

I'm hoping someone who has access to the 1911 census would be kind enough to look up the address above (hopefully he was living there then) and let me know who his mother was and perhaps where he was born...

Cheers :)

Flick

Flick Report 19 Dec 2010 22:25

This one is a Labourer, and has a brother Robert

Person: BROWN, Alexander
Address: 57 Warburton St Liverpool

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BROWN, Robert Head Single M 32 1879 Cabinet Makers Packer Lancashire Lpool VIEW
BROWN, William Brother Single M 29 1882 Ships Cook Assistant Lancashire Lpool VIEW
BROWN, John Brother Single M 26 1885 Labourer Lancashire Lpool VIEW
BROWN, Alexander Brother Single M 18 1893 Labourer Lancashire Lpool VIEW
BROWN, Harry Brother Single M 14 1897 Bakers Errand Boy Lancashire Lpool VIEW
MARGAN, Thomas Stepbrother M 11 1900 School Lancashire Lpool VIEW
BROWN, Ellen Sister Single M 24 1887 Domestic Servant Lancashire Lpool VIEW
BROWN, Florence Sister Single F 20 1891 Domestic Servant Lancashire Lpool VIEW
TAYLOR, William Boarder Single M 15 1896 Grocers Errand Boy Lancashire Lpool VIEW
TAYLOR, George Boarder M 13 1898 School Lancashire Lpool VIEW
TAYLOR, Charles Boarder M 12 1899 School Lancashire Lpool

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Dec 2010 22:43

1911

131 Boaler St is occupied by Murphy family

Katie

Katie Report 19 Dec 2010 22:47

Does the marriage cert give his age? Who were the witnesses?
Katie

B1

B1 Report 19 Dec 2010 22:47

Thanks for trying Flick :)

Doesn't look like I'll be getting far if he wasn't living at 131 Boaler St West Derby at the time of the census.

Wishing you all the best for Christmas and the New Year

B1

B1 Report 19 Dec 2010 22:52

To Glitter Baby, thank you... not good news but thank you at least I now know

To Katie, his age is listed as 20, the witnesses are, George T Kirkham (I think) & J N Thirsfall???

B1

B1 Report 19 Dec 2010 23:37

If I pay to view
BROWN, Alexander Brother Single M 18 1893 Labourer Lancashire Lpool VIEW
will there be more information to see apart from what has been posted by Flick? Oh dear, I'm grabbing at straws now :)

I'm trying to locate the family above on the 1901 census but haven't had any luck so far, I'll keep plodding on in between my Christmas baking.

Choccy

Choccy Report 20 Dec 2010 08:12




On the 1911 census the enumerator states that Alexander was working for Liverpool Corporation

Choccy

Choccy Report 20 Dec 2010 08:23



1901 - ?? Thomas is a step-brother in 1911


MANGAN, Thomas Head Married M 40 1861 Butchers Labourer
Dublin Ireland VIEW
MANGAN, Ellen Wife Married F 37 1864
Ripton
Yorkshire VIEW (born SKIPTON on original)
MANGAN, Ellen Daughter F 14 1887
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MANGAN, Florence Daughter F 11 1890
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
>>>>>MANGAN, Alexander Son M 8 1893
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MANGAN, Henry Son M 4 1897
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MANGAN, Thomas Son M 1 1900
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3493 Folio:
6 Page:
4

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
West Derby Western Enumeration District:
43 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Edge Hill St Jude

Civil Parish:
West Derby Municipal Borough:
Address:
7/ 4, Court House, Lowwood Street, West Derby County:
Lancashire




1911 - states she has been married 32 years, 11 children born and 8 are still living

MANGAN, Ellen Patient Married
32 years F 49 1862 Yorks Skipton VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22210 Reference:
RG14PN22210 RD453 SD3 ED37 SN9999

Registration District:
Liverpool Sub District:
Abercromby Enumeration District:
37 Parish:
Liverpool

Address:
Institution: The Royal Infirmary General Hospital The Royal Infirmary Nurses Home, ROYAL INFIRMARY, GENERAL HOSPITAL AND NURSES HOME, PEMBROKE PLACE AND ASHTON STREET
Pembroke Place and Ashton Street County:
Lancashire



possible death of Ellen -


Deaths Sep 1911 (>99%)
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Mangan Ellen 50 W.Derby 8b 906



Choccy

Choccy Report 20 Dec 2010 08:30



this looks like the family in 1891 -

Robert and Ellen Brown and the same children as in 1911 -


1891

BROWN, Robert Head Married M 36 1855 General Labourer
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
BROWN, Ellen Wife Married F 29 1862
Knowle
Yorkshire VIEW
BROWN, Robert Son Single M 12 1879
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
BROWN, William Son Single M 9 1882
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
BROWN, John Son Single M 7 1884
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
BROWN, Ellen Daughter Single F 4 1887
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
2956 Folio:
30 Page:
3

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
North Everton Enumeration District:
26 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Saviours

Civil Parish:
Everton Municipal Borough:
Liverpool Address:
41, Handfield Street, Everton, Liverpool County:
Lancashire

Katie

Katie Report 20 Dec 2010 18:57

Well done Choccy!

Katie

Katie Report 20 Dec 2010 19:11

Possible death for Robert

Deaths Sep 1892
Brown Robert 38 Liverpool 8b 12

B1

B1 Report 21 Dec 2010 22:49

Choccy that's fantastic, thank you so much *big big smile*

I was really starting to despair.

Not sure about 1901 though, I'll have a re-read and try to get my head around it.

Katie you're a gem too

Christmas blessings to you both, you've made me a very happy girl!

B1

B1 Report 21 Dec 2010 23:22

Just thinking out loud now

1878
BROWN Robert m WILSON Ellen, Liverpool, St. Peter 2122LP/68/266
1879
BROWN Robert m HYDE Ellen, Manchester, Hulme, St. Stephen Manchester 72/1/277

This is the closest I could get to a Thomas MANGAN marrying an Ellen which doesn't seem to fit, maybe they didn't actually marry...
1894
MONAGHAN Thomas m CONWAY Ellen, Liverpool, Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne 2053LP/81/416

hmmm more thinking required while I get ready for my Christmas visitors

Cheers to all