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meefy

meefy Report 20 Dec 2010 22:24

I am trying to find the parents and any siblings of George William Hill, born in Portsea circa 1852. I have found all about his wives and children, I would just like to take this line back as best I can.
He is shown as married in the 1881 census so I've been looking at cencus information prior to then, but I cannot seem to find him

Regards

Rhys

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 20 Dec 2010 22:26

Do you have his father's name from a marriage cert?
Jan

Flick

Flick Report 20 Dec 2010 22:26

If you obtain one of his marriage certs, you will find out the details of his father (if known)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 20 Dec 2010 22:27

??

1861 England Census

Name: George Hill
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Hill
Mother's name: Ann Hill
Gender: Male
Where born: Southampton

Civil Parish: Portsea
Town: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Portsea Town

George Hill 31
Ann Hill 29
Ann Hill 12
Sarah Hill 10
George Hill 8
Elizabeth Hill 4
Alfred Hill 3
Harry Hill 1
Edmond Chippeston 10
Walter Chippeston 8


brummiejan

brummiejan Report 20 Dec 2010 22:28

More likely:

1871 England Census

Name: George Hill
[George Kill]
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's name: Charles Hill
Mother's name: Eliza Hill
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsea, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: Kingston St Mary and Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport

Charles Hill 61
Eliza Hill 55
George Hill 20
Henry Hill 18
Mary A Hill 14


brummiejan

brummiejan Report 20 Dec 2010 22:30

Do you have him 1881? If this is him the birthplace is different:

1881 England Census

Name: Geo. Hill
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Charlotte Hill
Gender: Male
Where born: Whittington, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address: 3 Newton Terce
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Sergt.R.M.A.

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport

Geo. Hill 30
Charlotte Hill 26
Ann Hill 3
Amy Hill 2
Maud Hill

meefy

meefy Report 20 Dec 2010 22:39

I have him married to an Elizabeth Johnson.
He had 4 children, one born in Ireland, two in India and the last in Scotland, but he settled in Bridgend in Wales after that.

He was in the army, so his father could have also been military, but does that link with Portsea?

Rhys

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 21 Dec 2010 01:44

So why not give the information you have in the first place, as the instructions say to do? You have his wives' names, etc. etc. etc. Nobody else does.

Did Jan just waste her time? You haven't even responded to anything she posted.

How about what Flick said? Have you identified one of his marriages, and got the marriage certificate to learn his father's name? You "have him" married to Elizabeth Johnson -- from an actual record somewhere?

Unless and until you give some details -- e.g. post a census record for the household -- there doesn't seem much point in anyone continuing to guess.

Flick

Flick Report 21 Dec 2010 09:59

1891

Name: George W Hill
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth Hill
Gender: Male
Where born: Betsia, (Portsea) Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Lower Coyty
Ecclesiastical parish: Coyty
Town: Bridgend
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales


Registration district: Bridgend
Sub-registration district: Bridgend
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George W Hill 39
Elizabeth Hill 40 Felixstowe, Suffolk
Walter E Hill 11 b. Ireland
Melicent R Hill 9 b. Lucknow, India
Florence B Hill 7 b. Lucknow, India
William S Hill 11 (1) b. Kilmarnock

Flick

Flick Report 21 Dec 2010 10:11

1901

Name: George William Hill
Age in 1901: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Laura Sarah Hill
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Coyty
Ecclesiastical parish: Coyty and Nolton St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Registration district: Bridgend
Sub-registration district: Bridgend
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members: Name Age
George William Hill 48
Laura Sarah Hill 30
William Sydney Hill 10
Laura A Violet Hill 7

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Buy this marriage cert....to find out his father's details (if known)

Marriages Mar 1893 (>99%)
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Hill George William Bridgend 11a 773
Whitehead Laura Sarah L Bridgend 11a 773

And, please, if you request help in the future, give ALL known info at the beginning...........don't wait for it to be dragged out of you. Thank you

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 21 Dec 2010 16:48

Since this is the only GWH birth anywhere near Portsea anytime around 1851-3


Births Sep 1852
HILL George William Portsea 2b 372

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl


it would seem quite likely to be him. A match with the father's name on a marriage certificate would confirm or deny.

Maybe you hadn't serched at FreeBMD ...

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 21 Dec 2010 16:57

The 1861 household Jan posted is most likely, I think.

George Hill 31 - caulker, dockyard
Ann Hill 29
Ann Hill 12
Sarah Hill 10
George Hill 8 - born Southampton
Elizabeth Hill 4
Alfred Hill 3
Harry Hill 1
Edmond Chippeston 10
Walter Chippeston 8
in Portsea


Another possibility in 1861, if he wasn't actually born in Portsea but thought he was (Landport = Portsea):

Emma Hill 33 - seaman's wife, born Landport
Emma Hill 16 - born Landport
Ann Hill 13 - born Landport
John Hill 9 - born Landport
George Hill 7 - born London
Alfred Hill 3 - born London
in Portsea

(Usually children are recorded as "scholar" -- these last 3 are "uneducated"!)


For the George Hill/Kill Jan posted above -- an Ancestry user has corrected the name from Hill to Kill, and said only that it was a mistranscription. No way of knowing whether that person knows something, or just thought they could read the image better after randomly encountering it. However, there was a George Kill registered Q3 1851 Portsea, so I think that rules that one out.