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Roberts Family - Llanfwrog & Ruthin

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Patricia

Patricia Report 4 Jan 2011 00:20

I am seeking connections to the following family:
Joseph Roberts, son of Lewis Roberts and Jane, born circa 1854, Ruthin

wife: Elizabeth Kitching, daughter of William Kitching and Sarah Marsden, born 1850 Birmingham

Children included:
Mary Polly 1875
William Edward 1876
Edith Felkin 1880
Rowland 1882
Joseph Mervyn 1889
Henry Marsden 1893
Gwen
Ernest possible 1891
All children registered Ruthin

I am looking for all family members in the 1911 census and marriage for children. Also for a death date for Elizabeth. I believe this was between 1901 and 1911.

Thank you.

patchem

patchem Report 4 Jan 2011 00:24

If this is the correct William he was already married by 1901. Have you checked?
1911
ROBERTS, William Edward Head Married M 34 1877 Clothiers Assistant Denbighshire Ruthin
ROBERTS, Helenor Wife Married 11 years F 32 1879 Denbighshire Llangwn
ROBERTS, Gwyneth Elizabeth Daughter Married F 10 1901 School Denbighshire Ruthin
ROBERTS, Lys Ceridwen Daughter Married F 5 1906 Denbighshire Ruthin
JONES, Elizabet Ann Servant Single F 17 1894 Servant General Domestic Denbighshire Ruthin

RG number: RG14 Piece: 34090 Reference: RG14PN34090 RG78PN1967 RD622 SD2 ED11 SN215
Registration District: Ruthin Sub District: Ruthin Enumeration District:
11 Parish: Ruthin Urban
Address: Preswylla Mount St Ruthin County: Denbighshire

patchem

patchem Report 4 Jan 2011 00:29

1911 claims through FMP
ROBERTS, Joseph Head Widow M 57 1854 Glass And China Dealer Denbigh Ruthin
ROBERTS, Mary Daughter Single F 36 1875 Assisting In Business Denbigh Ruthin
ROBERTS, Ernest F Daughter Single F 31 1880 Servant Teacher Denbigh Ruthin
ROBERTS, Henry Mauden Son Single M 17 1894 Clerk Manufacturer Denbigh Ruthin
ROBERTS, Henry Marsden Son Single M 17 1894 Clerk Education Offense Denbigh Ruthin
EVANS, Hannah Servant Single F 17 1894 General Servant Denbigh Ruthin

RG number: RG14 Piece: 34090 Reference:
RG14PN34090 RG78PN1967 RD622 SD2 ED11 SN159
Registration District: Ruthin Sub District: Ruthin Enumeration District: 11 Parish: Ruthin Urban
Address: 9 Well St Ruthin County: Denbighshire

daughter Ernest is Edith Fulkin?? age 31
and Ernest is 20

patchem

patchem Report 4 Jan 2011 00:46

If this is correct family in 1901, Joseph is a widow, so his wife died before 1901:
1901 Wales Census
Joseph Robert Age in 1901: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Head
Gender: Male Where born: Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales Civil Parish: Llanrhydd County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales
Occupation: Chemist Assitant Registration district: Ruthin Sub-registration district: Ruthin ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 151

Joseph Robert 47
Mary Robert 26
Joseph M Robert 11
Ernest Robert 10
Henry M Robert 7

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 5228; Folio: 62; Page: 23.

patchem

patchem Report 4 Jan 2011 00:49

There are a choice of deaths for Elizabeth in Ruthin between 1891 and 1901.

Patricia

Patricia Report 4 Jan 2011 01:06

Thank you all. This is a great help. Joseph was a chemist assistant so the 1901 listing seems correct. Also I'm pretty sure of the of the marriage to Hellenor.

The 1911 census seems to muddy the waters. Edith Felkin Roberts was born 1880 and Ernest in 1891. Seems like the two have been somehow merged in the census listing.

Patricia

patchem

patchem Report 4 Jan 2011 06:52

No, FMP have incorrectly transcribed the 1911(putting Henry twice, Ernest as 30 and a daughter and missing Edith). Edith and Ernest are both on the original.
It would have helped if you had said that you did not have the 1901 - why did you think Elizabeth died after 1901 if you did not have the family in 1901?
Thanks