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I am trying to trace Samuel (J) Hall dob 1889 Pimblico - he lived in
Birkenhead Raffles Road between 1950/1960's could have been longer than that - he married twice but I do not know their names or anything
he had a brother Edward
any help appreciated as I do not live in England
Thanks
Alma

do you have any parents names

Any idea of his parents names?

I presume by Pimblico, you really mean Pimlico, which is London.
The only birth for a Samuel J Hall in London at this time is this one:-

Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Hall Samuel John McG Chelsea 1a 347

.........could this be the one?

More info about the above birth:-

Name: Samuel John Mcqueen Hall
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1889
Baptism Date: 17 Apr 1889
Father's name: Samuel Hall
Mother's name: Hannah Sulivan Hall
Parish or Poor Law Union: Worlds End St John
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Address (looks like):- 13 Mark Street

In case it is the correct one, this would be the family in 1891:-

Name: Samuel J M Hals
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's name: Samuel Hals
Mother's name: Annie Hals
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, London, England

Civil Parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, South
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Hals 25 born: Primlico, London
Annie Hals 24 born: Primlico, London
Samuel J M Hals 2
Edwin H Hals 19 - Brother born: Primlico, London
George Hals 21 - Brother born: Chelsea, London

...............father Samuel is born Pimlico, so maybe.

1901 shows brother Edward, so looking good:-

Name: Samuel J Hall
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's name: Samuel Hall
Mother's name: Annie Hall
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, London, England

Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 125 Sherbrooke Road

Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: North West Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 267
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Hall 34 born: Pimlico, London (Traveller Tea)
Annie Hall 32 born: Ireland ?
Samuel J Hall 12
Edward H Hall 8 born: Fulham, London
Cecelia M Hall 23 - Sister born: Pimlico, London

birth for Edward:-
Births Mar 1893 (>99%)
Hall Edward Henry Fulham 1a 296

Name: Edward Henry Hall
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: 26 Dec 1892
Baptism Date: 3 Feb 1893
Father's name: Samuel Hall
Mother's name: Annie Hall
Parish or Poor Law Union: Fulham St Peter
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham

Possible 1911?:-
Haven't listed the family he was boarding with.

HALL, Samuel Boarder Single M 22 1889 Milkman Carrier Chelsea
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
349 Reference:
RG14PN349 RG78PN11 RD3 SD5 ED12 SN129

Registration District:
Fulham Sub District:
South Fulham Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
Fulham

Address:
14 Munster Road Fulham SW County:
London

Father Samuel

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Household: 1881

Edwin HALL Head M Male 48 Sussex, England Ironmoulder
Sarah HALL Wife M Female 42 Stafford, England
William HALL Son U Male 17 Pimlico, Middlesex, England Clerk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Samuel HALL Son U Male 15 Pimlico, Middlesex, England Clerk
Edwin HALL Son U Male 8 Pimlico, Middlesex, England Scholar
Celeilia HALL Dau Female 2 Pimlico, Middlesex, England
Ann FISHER Mother W Female 70 Stafford, England
Wilhelmina FAWKES Other U Female 61 London, London, Middlesex, England Lady Superintendant Of Mission (HS)
Mary J. SMITH Other U Female 45 London, London, Middlesex, England Assistant

:
Dwelling 94 Gloucester St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England

this looks to be the birth of sister Cecilia:-

Births Sep 1878 (>99%)
Hall Cecilia Maud S A St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 406

and brother Edwin:-
Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
Hall Edwin Henry F St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 341

and brother George?
Births Dec 1871 (>99%)
HALL George Thomas St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 303

A possible for his death?


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Samuel John Hall
Birth Date: 26 Jan 1889
Death Registration Month/Year: 1974
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire, Merseyside
Volume: 10a
Page: 167

Could be worth getting the death certificate to see who registered his death.

Doesn't matter if you're not in England - you can order any certificate online from GRO - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

The cost of £9.25 includes postage anywhere.

Thanks to all who sent me replies it has been quite helpful to me
I am surprised at the info regarding actual dates of birth & babtism
I can only find dates to the nearest quarter
Many many thanks
Alms

It all depends what site you are using Alma

Those baptisms come from Ancestry which cover a lot of London Baptisms and Marriages up until the early part of the 20th centary

jax

I am with Genes reunited it does not have that info
Cheers
Alma

Had a message from Alma so pm'd these details
possible the only 2 in the area between 1911-1970 with that name but to confirm you would need marriage cert to get more details. I see you have been given the info where you can order them from.
Name: Samuel J Hall
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse Cumes Maude C
District: Birkenhead (1861-1998)
County: Cheshire, Merseyside
Volume: 8a
Page: 1063
This lady is registered under 2 names so possibly a widow or div.
Name: Samuel J Hall
Spouse Martha E Evans/Martha E Newton
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1951
Registration district: Birkenhead
Registration county (inferred): Cheshire
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 182

Maude;s death

Name: Maude C Hall
Death Registration Month/Year: 1946
Age at death (estimated): 63
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 79

? Martha's death index
Name: Martha Evelyn Hall
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1895
Death Registration Month/Year: 1974
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire, Merseyside
Volume: 37
Page: 0731



so her maiden name was poss. Newton
Name: Martha Evelyn Newton
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Wirral (1837-1974)
County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 450


her 1st marriage
Name: Martha E Newton
Spouse Surname: Evans
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918
Registration district: Wirral
Registration county (inferred): Cheshire
Volume Number: 8a
Page Number: 755

Hi Jan
do not think Martha a possibility as I visited Samuel Hall in 1960's and he was living alone I left England but we corresponded jusy by Xmas cards for a few years then they stopped I wrote to the next door address they passed my letter on to a person who said he had married again and that he had died a couple of years later
Alma

I made a separate thread for the Father & Mother
Samuel Hall 1865 Pimlico & Annie ? from Ireland
how do you get details from Ireland & how do I cancel 2nd thread
Alma

Annie's maiden name would be on any of her children's birth certificates.

Use freebmd to look them up.
LINK :
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl