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I'm stuck trying to find birth details of two relatives of my wife. One of them is Thomas Patrick McBarron (Also known as Sonny). I have his marriage certificate 12/5/1945 which gives his age as 26, so born Abt. 1919. I've had no luck with an indexed birth search using the surname McBarron, Barron, MacBarron and also Rogan (Rogan was his mum's maiden name). I have traced brothers and sisters, Hugh (B 1908 Sunderland), James (B1910 Sunderland), Elizabeth (B 1912 Devonport), John (B & D 1913 Devonport), George (B1915 Devonport), John Dennis(Wifes dad B 1922 Sunderland), Isabella (B1925 Sunderland), Sonia (B 1929 Sunderland). In the gap between George (191) and John Dennis (1922) the family reckon there were two other uncles - Thomas Patrick and Ernest. I'm still waiting on GRO sending me the Marriage cert of Ernest but can I heck find a birth index entry.

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Thomas Patrick Mcbarron Name: Thomas Patrick Mcbarron
Birth Date: 17 Feb 1919
Death Registration Month/Year: Jun 1988
Age at death (estimated): 69
Registration district: New Forest
Inferred County: Hampshire, New Forest
Volume: 20
Page: 343

I've had a look on Ancestry, sorry like yourself I can't find anything for either of them. Don't despair if they existed some of the excellent researchers on here will find them.

Regards

Catherine

What did I say???

Catherine

Found a death:
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries

Name: Ernest Mcbarron
Birth Date: 27 Jun 1917
Death Registration Month/Year: 1978
Registration district: Hatfield
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 10
Page: 0271
Name: Ernest Mcbarron
Birth: 27 Jun 1917
Death: Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England
Death: Oct-Nov-Dec 1978

Couple of marriages:

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
Marriage & Divorce

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Name: Ernest Mcbarron
Spouse Surname: Trusty
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1949
Registration district: Sunderland
Registration county (inferred): Durham
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 2405

Name: Ernest Mcbarron
Spouse: Ashworth
Marriage: Jan-Feb-Mar 1953 - Sunderland, Durham

Regards

Catherine

Do you know what the father's occupation was?

Wow!! Tempest & Catherine. That has confirmed some of the information I had and given me pointers to their births. Where do you get your info from? I can't find Ernest McBarron's death on the Dec qtr index for 1978. However his two marriage entries confirm as his first wife died soon after they were married. I'll now go digging further, based on the Death Certificates given birth dates. Many thanks to you both.

Catherine, Father to Thomas was a shipwright at time of his marriage.

Mike

you're welcome, I found the death on ancestry but they may also be on freebmd also

this will be them in 1911 census

Address: 31 Granby St Devonport

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

MCBARRON, John Head Married 3 years M 25 1886 Shipwright H M Dockyard Sunderland
MCBARRON, Catherine Wife Married 3 years F 20 1891 Sunderland
MCBARRON, Hughis Son M 3 1908 Sunderland
MCBARRON, James Son M 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Sunderland

think you need to have a look at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Year 1919
Surname MCBARRON
Forename THOMAS PATRICK
Sex M
District MORNINGSIDE
City/County/MR EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN
GROS 685/06 0148

you would need to order the birth cert from them on the website

Bit odd, the original census was signed by the next door neighbour Mary Whitford Boyle (but the writing on the form was not her's), wonder if there was a connection?

just had a look for Ernest's birth on scotlandspeople, it costs £10 per birth cert from them

Year 1917
Surname MCBARRON
Forename ERNEST
Sex M
District MORNINGSIDE
City/ County/EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN
MR GROS 685/06 0617

Scottish certs ordered. \thanks once again. The McBarrons originated in Ireland, settled for a while in Dumbartonshire and then moved to Sunderland. No one in the family made mention of Edinburgh which is my home town.
Many thanks to all you wonderful volunteers.

Mike