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Grandfather's birth

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Glynnis

Glynnis Report 21 Feb 2011 21:11

On the 1911 census Grandfather Frederick Watson stated he was born in Beverley E R Yorks abt 1871. After an exhaustive search I cannot find any record of his birth. I have his marriage cert. so know he wed Ada Thompson in 1908 in Misson, Notts. I also have his death cert. so know he died in 1938 near Hartlepool Co. Durham. He is buried with his wife in Mexborough. In every record I have he was either an agricultural labourer or farmer.

Mary

Mary Report 21 Feb 2011 21:36

where were they in 1911?

Maryb

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Feb 2011 21:49

Frederick Wm. Watson

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1871 — Hemsworth, York, England
residence: Hemsworth, York, England
parents: Tom Watson

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Frederick Wm. Watson
age: 10
gender: Male
birth year: 1871
birthplace: Hemsworth, York, England
relationship to head of household: Son
profession / occupation: Scholar
address: Green Hill
census place: Hemsworth, York, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342109
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 4596 / 57
page number: 1


Frederick Watson

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1871 — Bolton On Dearne, York, England
residence: York St Mary Bishopshill Jnr, York, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Frederick Watson
age: 10
gender: Male
birth year: 1871
birthplace: Bolton On Dearne, York, England
relationship to head of household: Son
profession / occupation: Scholar
address: 1 Cambridge Street
census place: York St Mary Bishopshill Jnr, York, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342141
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 4719 / 162
page number: 45


Frederick Watson

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1871 — Scalby, York, England
residence: Suffield Cum Everley, York, England
parents: George Watson, Ann Watson

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Frederick Watson
age: 10
gender: Male
birth year: 1871
birthplace: Scalby, York, England
relationship to head of household: Son
profession / occupation: Scholar
address: Northfield Farm
census place: Suffield Cum Everley, York, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342160
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 4807 / 12
page number: 16


Frederick Watson

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1871 — Middlesbro, York, England
residence: Marton In Middlesbrough, York, England
parents: William J. Watson, Annie Watson

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Frederick Watson
age: 10
gender: Male
birth year: 1871
birthplace: Middlesbro, York, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Unknown
profession / occupation: Scholar
address: Grove Hill
census place: Marton In Middlesbrough, York, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342170
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 4857 / 104
page number: 38


Frederick Watson

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1871 — Leeds, York, England
residence: Leeds, York, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Frederick Watson
age: 10
gender: Male
birth year: 1871
birthplace: Leeds, York, England
relationship to head of household: Stepson
address: 25 Bedford Ter
census place: Leeds, York, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342089
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 4530 / 47
page number:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Feb 2011 21:51

Henry Watson

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1871 — Beverley, York, England
residence: Beverley St Martin, York, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Henry Watson
age: 10
gender: Male
birth year: 1871
birthplace: Beverley, York, England
relationship to head of household: Nephew
profession / occupation: Scholar
address: Well Lane
census place: Beverley St Martin, York, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342145
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 4741 / 67
page number:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Feb 2011 21:53

finding lots of Watson's in Beverley around that time - did he have brothers and sisters and do you know his parents names?

tempest

tempest Report 21 Feb 2011 21:54

hi is this the 1911 census you have?

on the original it says married 10 years, so they claim to mary around 1901, you have the marriage cert for 1908??

Address: Bulhassocks Wroot Doncaster

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

WATSON, Frederick Head Married M 39 1872 Farm Foreman Beverley Yorkshire E R
WATSON, Ada Wife Married 10 years F 36 1875 Swinton Yorkshire W R
THOMPSON, Joseph Father Widower M 64 1847 Farm Waggoner Belton Yorkshire W R
THOMPSON, Reginald Son Single M 13 1898 School Mexboro Yorkshire W R
THOMPSON, Fred Servant Single M 22 1889 Farm Labourer Belton Yorkshire W R
NEWSOME, William Servant Single M 18 1893 Farm Labourer Keadby Linc
KELLOTT, William Servant Single M 18 1893 Farm Labourer Keadby Lincashire
MOORE, Richard Servant Single M 16 1895 Farm Labourer Thorne Yorks
CHECKLEY, William Servant Single M 15 1896 Farm Labourer Crowle Lincinshire
THOMPSON, Harry Servant Single M 15 1896 Farm Labourer Belton Lincinshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Feb 2011 21:55

You say you have his marriage cert., so what is given as his father's name and occupation?

Astra

Astra Report 22 Feb 2011 07:40

From a tree it looks as though his father was named as John.
I also note that in 1901 Ada's age was 17.

Gee

Gee Report 22 Feb 2011 08:30

Have you tried this birth certificate?


Births Dec 1872 (>99%)
WATSON Fred Howden 9d 84

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Feb 2011 13:14

here's a Watson farming connection Glynis

Frederick Watson

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1856 — Leake, York, England
residence: Thirsk & Sand Hutton, York, England
parents: Douthwaite Watson, Mary Watson

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Frederick Watson
age: 25
gender: Male
birth year: 1856
birthplace: Leake, York, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Unknown
profession / occupation: Farmer Son
address: Sandhutton Village
census place: Thirsk & Sand Hutton, York, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342163
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 4820 / 143
page number:

tempest

tempest Report 22 Feb 2011 13:53

pm received from glynnis

Yes I am aware of him giving an incorrect date of their marriage -- I don't know why. He also gave a false age for Ada she was only 27 yrs. I have her birth certificate. It is definitely the right family.

Mary

Mary Report 22 Feb 2011 14:48

Yes I have found ada with dad Joseph Feilding thompson 1847 belton Lincs married to Sarah Ann Moorfoot.
Ada was born 1884 not 1875.
marriage A/m/J 1908 Doncaster 9c 1525.

So if Fred got those two answers wrong,what else did he did he get wrong.

I bet Ada was pleased he didn't know her age or when they got married!!!

What was there address and witnesses to marriage and his dads name and occupation?

Maryb