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JaneyCanuck Report 5 Mar 2011 19:47

I'm not sure that any of those Allens lived or died in Australia though -- the notice of the probate was published in Australia, but the probate was granted in England. Notice was probably published there because the deceased owned property or did business in Australia.

Name: Frederick C Allen
Death Registration Month/Year: 1934
Age at death (estimated): 70
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 122

These deaths could match

Name: Harry M Allen
Death Registration Month/Year: 1943
Age at death (estimated): 76 = dob c1867
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 727

Name: Ada P Allen
Death Registration Month/Year: 1961
Age at death (estimated): 94 = cob c1867
Registration district: Cheltenham
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 9b
Page: 320

-- the bio details on page 1 say 1937, but I don't see a death that year

and also in the list of executors

Name: Mary H C Allen
Death Registration Month/Year: 1956
Age at death (estimated): 81
Registration district: Maidenhead
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 14

birth (so - sister):
Name: Mary Harriet C Allen
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Derby
County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 464


MeJoy75 Report 6 Mar 2011 01:11

Thanks for your replies. It is strange that Mary Harriet is not on the 1881 or 1891 Census with her mother & siblings, can anyone see her for me.

Just a query, why would they become Dame, Sir and Baronet?

Maryb, I have done Hannah's family, her brother was also very well off Managing Director of Alexander Docks, Newport, Monmouth



Mary Report 6 Mar 2011 11:12

Do we have 2 Mary Harriet C Allens,one the wife of Frederick Charles Allen born Fair Oaks Hants 1875

One a sister born Derby 1875.



MeJoy75 Report 6 Mar 2011 11:36


I think you might be right, in the newspaper article on previous page there is a Dame Mary Harriet Corrie, who I thought was Fredericks wife, I believe that they had a son, not sure if any other children.

At the bottom of his will it is written - 'The testator expressed the earnest wish that his son should not rely only upon the income he would derive from the estate, but that he would order his life in such manner as would make him a useful member of the community in whatever part of the world he might make his home.'


Mary Report 6 Mar 2011 11:45

1911 they had,
Violet Parkinson Allen born Ceylon 1904
Frank raymond Allen born Ceylon 1910.



MeJoy75 Report 6 Mar 2011 11:51

Thank you, Frank also became Sir, I wonder what he did!!



MeJoy75 Report 6 Mar 2011 12:17

Frederick left estate in New South Wales of £34,400, can you check to see what was the total? I think someone gave me what his cousins, would be worth today, from memory about £46,000,000!!

I am off to bed, nearly 11.30, thanks for all your help,



JaneyCanuck Report 6 Mar 2011 20:25

I think the chance of there being two Mary Harriet C Allens, one by birth and one by marriage, is rather remote, really.

Son Frank raymond Allen born Ceylon 1910. -- one of the executors named in the newspaper listing about the estate.


ALLEN FREDERICK CHARLES 1865 46 Kensington London

But I could be wrong! ;)

Aren't you doing any searching, Mel??

Marriages Dec 1902
Allen Frederick Charles Winchester 2c 261
Nash Mary Harriet C Winchester 2c 261

Quite the concidence! (The Mary Harriet C Allen was born in Derbyshire, too, which doesn't fit, I think.)

One other likely birth to the marriage:

Births Jun 1912
Allen John P Nash Chelsea 1a 718

I think Mary Harriet Corrie Nash Allen may have been a Nash by marriage, and was possibly this MHC:

Births Dec > 1874
Parker Mary Harriet C > Winchester 2c 111

... although I don't see a marriage to fit -- but there also is no MHC Nash birth.

MHC may have been a dame by birth?


MeJoy75 Report 2 Jul 2011 09:01

Hi all,

I am trying to find George William Marsden - not sure where & when he was born and his wife Annette Charlotte nee Allen b 1836 in York, Annette died June 1889 Wakefield. They married in 1861.

I cannot find them on the 1881 Census, could someone please check the 1871 Census & see if they are on there?

Thanks, Joy


MaureeninNY Report 2 Jul 2011 10:31

1871 England Census about George W Marsden
Name: George W Marsden
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annette C Marsden
Gender: Male
Where born: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Wakefield
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Wakefield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Wakefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 201
Piece: 4623
Folio: 54
Page Number: 37
George W Marsden 32
Annette C Marsden 30
Laura E Marsden 8
Philip S Marsden 6
Marmaduke Marsden 5
George Marsden 4
William Marsden 3
Annette L Marsden 1
Ann Chapman 20
Maria Laxton 17
Ann Allen 72

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4623; Folio: 54; Page: 37;
1881 census transcription details for: Northgate, Wakefield

RG number: RG11 Piece: 4576 Folio: 64 Page: 52

Reg. District: Wakefield Sub District: Wakefield
Parish: Wakefield Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Northgate, Wakefield
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

MARSDEN, George W Head Married M 42 1839 Solicitor
MARSDEN, Henrietta C Wife Married F 42 1839
MARSDEN, Philip S Son Single M 16 1865 Solrs Clerk (Articled)
MARSDEN, Marmaduke Son Single M 15 1866 Scholar
MARSDEN, George W Son Single M 14 1867 Scholar
MARSDEN, William A Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar
MARSDEN, Annette L Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar
TAYLOR, Clara Servant Married F 19 1862 Domestic Servt
Lee Moor WD



MeJoy75 Report 2 Jul 2011 10:42

Thanks Maureen, noticed Henrietta but did not think it was the same person, as I did not have 1871 Census!!

Does it say who Ann Allen is to the family?

Thanks, Joy


MaureeninNY Report 2 Jul 2011 11:22

Hi Joy,

No it doesn't say anything about Ann other than she was a widow and born in Wakefield.



MeJoy75 Report 2 Jul 2011 11:40

Thanks again Maureen, hope it is not her mother, as I have her as Elizabeth!!