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17 Mar 2011 02:08 |
Looking for descendants of the Rev Charles Hadfield Statham or Charles Ernest Statham Or Isa Statham
http://ia600209.us.archive.org/21/items/Descent_of_the_Family_of_Statham/Descent_Family_Statham.pdf
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17 Mar 2011 02:47 |
Have you tried searching for them using the search trees?
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17 Mar 2011 03:51 |
For reference - Births Jun 1845 (>99%) STATHAM Charles Hadfield W Derby 20 971
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17 Mar 2011 04:30 |
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1861 census -
STATHAM, C H Scholar Unmarried M 16 1845 Bootle Lancashire ________________________________________ RG number: RG09 Piece: 583 Folio: 65 Page: 3 Registration District: Cuckfield Sub District: 3 Hustpierpoint Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Hurstpierpoint Municipal Borough: Address: Hurstpierpoint County: Sussex Institution: St Johns College And Grammar School, Hurstpierpoint Sussex
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17 Mar 2011 04:30 |
Charles Hadfield Statham
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 28 Mar 1845 christening: 23 May 1845 — St. Mary's, Walton-on-the-Hill, Lancashire, England baptism: death: burial: residence: 1845 — Walton-on-the-Hill, Lancashire, England parents: William Statham, Ellen Allan Statham spouse: child: marriage: record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Charles Hadfield Statham gender: Male baptism/christening date: 23 May 1845 baptism/christening place: St. Mary's, Walton-on-the-Hill, Lancashire, England birth date: 28 Mar 1845 father's name: William Statham mother's name: Ellen Allan Statham indexing project (batch) number: C02432-8 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1647560
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17 Mar 2011 04:37 |
William Statham
England Marriages, 1538–1973 birth: christening: baptism: death: burial: residence: parents: William Statham spouse: Ellen Hadfield child: marriage: 03 Aug 1837 — Walton On The Hill, Lancaster, England record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973 groom's name: William Statham bride's name: Ellen Hadfield marriage date: 03 Aug 1837 marriage place: Walton On The Hill, Lancaster, England groom's father's name: William Statham bride's father's name: Charles Gasside Hadfield groom's marital status: Single bride's marital status: Single indexing project (batch) number: M01513-9 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1647985
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17 Mar 2011 04:38 |
1841 census -
STATHAM, William M 30 1811 Lancashire STATHAM, Ellen F 20 1821 Lancashire STATHAM, William M 1 (21 months) 1840 Lancashire HADFIELD, Hannah F 20 1821 Lancashire DAVIES, Ellen F 35 1806 GRIFFITHS, Hannah F 25 1816 JONES, Catharine F 15 1826 RG number: HO107 Piece: 519 Book/Folio: 10/46 Page: 10 Registration District: Derby, West Sub District: Everton Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Walton on the Hill Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: Brunswick Terrace, North, Walton On The Hill, Kirkdale, Liverpool County: Lancashire
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17 Mar 2011 04:53 |
Charles Hadfield Statham Marriages: Spouse: Ann Sutton Hemsley Family Marriage: 1870 Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand
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17 Mar 2011 04:56 |
Try putting New Zealand in your thread title and someone with access to NZ records might be able to help you
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17 Mar 2011 10:07 |
I wonder if Sue is hoping that Statham relatives are going to see her message? However, I found this........
http://www.familytreecircles.com/kiwis-on-chunuk-bair-memorial-to-the-missing-page-7-robbie-to-terry-17221.html
STATHAM, Corporal, CLIVE HEATHCOTE FALK, 8/801. (14) Otago Infantry Battalion, N.Z.E.F. Killed in action 8th or 9th August 1915 with his brother below, by 'friendly fire', the shells almost certainly came from one of the howitzer batteries inside the old Anzac lines.” - read more on this site: GREAT WAR FORUM ENLISTMENT ADDRESS: Te Rua, Takapau Son of Mr Charles Hadfield Statham of Princes St, Mornington, Dunedin
STATHAM, Major, FRANK HADFIELD, 8/977A (14) Mentioned in Despatches, London Gazette 28th January 1916, In connection with the operations described in General Sir Ian Hamilton's despatch dated 11th December 1915 10th North Otago) Company, Otago Battalion, N.Z.E.F. BORN - 31st December 1880 at Dunedin Died of Wounds 8th or 9th August 1915 age 34 - Killed with his brother by 'friendly fire' during the heavy fighting on Chunuk Bair - see Clive above (also click link for more information) ENLISTMENT ADDRESS: Otago Son of the Rev. Charles Hadfield Statham & Annie S. Statham of Dunedin Husband of Mary Pierpoint Statham of 139 London St, Dunedin - ALSO LISTED AS Mary Pierpoint Statham (wife), c/o C.H. Statham 26 Dowling Street, Dunedin
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18 Mar 2011 23:51 |
Thank you for all your replies, Sorry for being tardy with my replies I am still a newbie at this and I am still finding my way but appreciate all the information.
I Have a Letter which my Father told me was from My Granddma ISA Cooper nee Statham's brother. The letter is dated 20th May 1927 From Charles Ernest Statham posted to Samuel Statham, ESQ PO. Box 25 Germistom.SA.
From Charles Ernest Statham speaker of the house of Representatives P.O. Box 607 Dunedin NZ
Its a three page Letter and very interesting. Here are some more details Of ISA Statham: Births Jul-Sep 1891 STATHAM Isa Salford 8d 16
1901 England Census about Ida Statham (reads Isa on original image) Name: Ida Statham Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Mary A Statham Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Pendleton Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Pendleton ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 234 Household Members: Name Age Mary A Statham 39 Harry Statham 19 Henrietta Statham 16 Ella Statham 15 Arnold Statham 13 Ida Statham 9 Elizabeth Fairclough 60 housekeeper
Hope I have put information with some relevant detail.
Kind Regards Sue and daughter Nikki
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19 Mar 2011 03:10 |
I don't understand!
You say:-
Have a Letter which my Father told me was from My Granddma ISA Cooper nee Statham's brother.
The letter is dated 20th May 1927 From Charles Ernest Statham posted to Samuel Statham, ESQ PO. Box 25 Germistom.SA.
From Charles Ernest Statham speaker of the house of Representatives P.O. Box 607 Dunedin NZ
Its a three page Letter and very interesting.
Here are some more details Of ISA Statham: Births Jul-Sep 1891 STATHAM Isa Salford 8d 16
SO .... you are saying that Charles Ernest Statham was Isa Statham's brother
BUT it looks as though Charles Eernest was born in New Zealand
I googled his name (always useful ..... and there is LOTS on the web about him). The relevant bits seem to be
Statham, Charles Ernest 1875–1946
Lawyer, politician, parliamentary Speaker
Charles Ernest Statham was born in Dunedin on 10 May 1875, the son of Ann Sutton Hemsley and her husband, Charles Hadfield Statham, a merchant's clerk, who was to be ordained an Anglican priest at the age of 70. Charles was educated privately and at Otago Boys' High School. He entered his father's office to train as an accountant but decided instead to take up the law. He was admitted as a solicitor in 1901 and as a barrister in 1906. In 1904 he started practice on his own, later establishing the firm of Statham, Brent, and Anderson. He was married in Dunedin on 7 December 1905 to Lilias Harata Hine te Aho Burnett; they were to have one daughter.
Statham was the first New Zealand-born Speaker and has been generally regarded as one of the finest Speakers of the New Zealand Parliament.
He died in Wellington on 5 March 1946, survived by his wife and daughter.
Isa Statham was born 1891 in Salford, Lancashire
SO are you saying, or implying, that Isa Statham born in Lancashire was the daughter of Charles Hadfield Statham
Descendents of Charles Hadfield Statham
Charles Hadfield STATHAM, b. ca. 1845 at Kirkdale, b. reg. Q2 1845 at West Derby R.D., m. Ann Sutton HEMSLEY. In 1851, a scholar, living with his parents. Subsequently a merchant's clerk. At his daughter Annie's marriage in 1908, of Mornington, Dunedin. At his son Clive's death in 1915, of Princes Street, Dunedin. Ordained as an Anglican priest at the age of 70. [ref. 2a,3b,5h,15g,19a]
1. Charles Ernest STATHAM, b. 10 May 1875 at Dunedin, New Zealand, m. 7 Dec 1905 at Dunedin, Lilias Harata Hine te Aho BURNETT, d. 5 Mar 1946 at Wellington, New Zealand. Emigrated to New Zealand, ca. 1863. A lawyer and politician in New Zealand. Speaker of the New Zealand parliament, 1922-1935. See his entry in the Dictionary of New Zealand Biography. [ref. 5h] 1. One daughter. [ref. 5h] 2. Frank Hadfield STATHAM, m. May Pierpont, d. ca. 8 Aug 1915. At his death, a major in the Otago Regiment of the New Zealand Expeditionary Force; his wife May was of 139 London Street, Dunedin. Killed in the Gallipoli campaign in World War I. Grave unknown. Named on a memorial at Chunuk Bair Cemetery, Turkey. [ref. 19a] 3. Annie Ellen STATHAM, m. 11 Jul 1908 at All Saints, Dunedin, Thomas HOBSON (son of Thomas HOBSON of Takapau, Hawke's Bay). [ref. 15g] 4. Clive Heathcote Falk STATHAM, d. ca. 8 Aug 1915. At his death, a corporal in the Otago Regiment of the New Zealand Expeditionary Force. Killed in the Gallipoli campaign in World War I. Grave unknown. Named on a memorial at Chunuk Bair Cemetery, Turkey. [ref. 19a]
There just seems to be no connection!
All the Stathams in that 1901 Census were born in Manchester, Lancashire
This is that same family in 1891, with father John present
1891 Census
Name: John Statham Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Annie Statham Gender: Male Where born: Pendleton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Pendleton Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Pendleton
John Statham 38 Timber Merchant Annie Statham 30 b. Pendleton Harry Statham 9 b. Hulme, Lancashire Melita Statham 6 b. Stretford, Cheshire Ella Statham 5 b. Stretford Arnold Statham 3 Cathrine Morris 16 Servant
Address:- 17 Statham Street
Quite a come down in life .................... Mary A was a Laundress in the 1901
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19 Mar 2011 03:30 |
This looks like John Statham, Isa's father, in 1871, at home with his parents
1871 Census
Name: John Statham Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Son Father's Name: Samuel Statham Mother's Name: Mary J Statham Gender: Male Where born: Pendleton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Pendleton Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Salford
Samuel Statham 44 Builder employing 11 men and 3 boys Mary J Statham 43 John Statham 18 Clerk Herbert Statham 16 Alfred E Statham 14 Margret Griffiths 20
Address:- 1 Milton Street, Claremont Cottage
and I cannot trace them back to Charles Hadfield or Charles Ernest
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19 Mar 2011 05:13 |
Hi Sylvia,
I Know all about Charles Hadfield and Charles Ernest Statham, Maybe I didnt explain well enough. I was told that Charles Ernest Statham, was Isa's brother, But I too cannot connect, this to my Grandmother. Its a shame I have a letter that belongs to Charles Ernest Statham. Given to be by my father years ago, I am just trying to piece it all together and maybe someone here would be delighted to find such a letter. Have you connections with Isa?
Regards Sue
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19 Mar 2011 05:25 |
Hi Sue
ah, I now understand!
No, sorry, no connection with Isa
...... I'm just one of the many helpers ....... other GR members who love helping other members break down brick walls!
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