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Flick

Flick Report 22 Mar 2011 16:22

Which of Silas and Charlotte's children is your direct line?

Flick

Flick Report 22 Mar 2011 16:20

Susan

You asked about the best site.........well, for research, it certainly isn't GR

When your sub expires, my advice would be not to renew it. If you'd asked around on here before taking out the Platinum sub, you'd have been advised against it.

Those of us who try to help on here mostly use Ancestry, although a number are now using FMP, because they have 1911.

Personally, I have Ancestry.......plus the 1911 on FMP

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Mar 2011 16:08

Here's Charlotte with a Boarder in 1891 and no William.

Name: Charlotte Hilll
Age: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitchurch, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Whitchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: Whitchurch
Town: Whitchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Whitchurch
Sub-registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Hilll 73
Henry C Barrett 25

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Mar 2011 16:02



I can't see an obvious match for your William after 1881. So I wonder???

This is from Freebmd.

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Mar 1882 (>99%)
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HILL William 37 Whitchurch H 2c 135


That is the same registration district as his mother's death was registered.

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Mar 1900 (>99%)
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Hill Charlotte 82 Whitchurch, H. 2c 188

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Mar 2011 15:55

Ok, Thank you. Then I suspect that the William that you have found on the 1911 isn't you William but the other fellow.

Susan

Susan Report 22 Mar 2011 14:38

Hi again i am a direct desendent of silas and charlotte they were my great great grand parents sue

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Mar 2011 14:37

Sorry, I am using Ancestry.co.uk as I only have a basic membership on here. My Ancestry sub came free with the Family Treemaker software that I use.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Mar 2011 14:35

This is the William that you have on the 1911 census in 1891 and he is a Fishmonger. So looks like a different person.

1891

Name: William Hill
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Hill
Gender: Male
Where born: Crookham, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Odiham
Ecclesiastical parish: Odiham
Town: North Warnborough
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hartley Wintney
Sub-registration district: Odiham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Hill 47 Fishmonger.
Elizabeth Hill 50
Frederick Hill 22
Rhoda Hill 16
Kate Hill 14
Jeannette Hill 11
Allen Hill 9
Harrold Hill 2


So the question is which of these Williams is the one from your family?

Are you descendended from a sibling of William son of Silas and Charlotte or are you a direct line descendant from the William on the 1911 census please?

Susan

Susan Report 22 Mar 2011 14:34

thankyou, would you please give me some advice, i am not getting as much info from the records that i have (platinum member on genes) you seem to be able to find out a lot more than i can may i please ask your opinion on which is the best genealogy site for the most info, they all claim to be the best. sue

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Mar 2011 14:31

This looks to be the same William in 1881 living with his widowed mother?

Name: William Hill
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Charlotte Hill
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitchurch, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Whitchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: Fair Close
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Baker

Registration district: Whitchurch
Sub-registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Hill 63
William Hill 37


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Mar 2011 14:27

This is William's details from the 1861. His occupation is some sort of Journeyman but I can read the second word.

Name: William Hill
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Silas Hill
Mother's Name: Charlotte Hill
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitchurch, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Whitchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Mar 2011 14:22

From the other thread - just to keep everything together.

so sorry i am trying to do two people at once her i got it wrong it charlotte and silas's son william who had ten children william was born c.1844 ans married elizabeth born c.1841 living in hampshire



1911 Census

william hill 47 head of household
elizabeth hill 50 wife
allan hill 29 son
harold hill 22 son
this william came from crookham and i am presuming it is the same william in the 1881 census who was the son of charlotte hill, the place of birth is different. but i cannot find the 1881 william on any other census. i am guessing its the same one as they are both in hampshire, but knowing me i am probably wrong. sue

Susan

Susan Report 22 Mar 2011 14:04

thankyou so much for your help, i really appreciate it as although i have been a member for some time i have only just started looking into the tree seriously. once again thanks sue

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Mar 2011 13:14

Looking at the marriage, Joseph in 1861 may be Charlotte's father although he is listed as a Lodger.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1841 (>99%)
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Farr Anne Whitechurch 7 245
Hill Silas Whitchurch 7 245
Wayt Charlotte Whitchurch 7 245
WITHERS George Whitchurch 7 245

Flick

Flick Report 22 Mar 2011 13:13

Marriages Mar 1841 (>99%)
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Hill Silas Whitchurch 7 245
Wayt Charlotte Whitchurch 7 245
_____________________________________________________

SILAS HILL
Father: WILLIAM HILL


Spouse: CHARLOTTE WAYT
Father: JOSEPH WAYT
Marriage: 30 JAN 1841 Whitchurch, Hampshire, England

Flick

Flick Report 22 Mar 2011 13:11

I thought only the 1911 census recorded the number of children born in a marriage?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Mar 2011 13:10



1851

Name: Silas Hill
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charlotte Hill
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Freefolk, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Whitchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Whitchurch
Sub-registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Household Members: Name Age
Silas Hill 44
Charlotte Hill 33
Louisa Hill 9
William Hill 7
Lloyd Hill 5
George Hill 1


1861

Name: Silas Hill
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charlotte Hill
Gender: Male
Where born: Freefolk, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Whitchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Whitchurch
Sub-registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Silas Hill 54
Charlotte Hill 43
William Hill 17
George Hill 11
Joseph Wayt 73



Have you looked for possible births and deaths of any children born between the census records please?

Susan

Susan Report 22 Mar 2011 13:05

Hi all i am trying to find the children of charlotte hill and silas hill. charlotte was born c.1818 and silas was born c. 1807. it says on the census that 10 children were born, i have some but not all. please help thanks sue