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Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935


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Name: L H Kibble
Birth: year
Departure: location
Arrival: date - Montreal, Quebec

BUT I only have ancestry.uk.

PLEASE would sks let me know the details for this passenger and also who else he is travelling with? There may be a wife Eva . . .??

Many thanks.

Name: L H Kibble
Gender: Male
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Date of Arrival: 16 Jun 1900
Vessel: Cambroman
Search Ship Database: View the 'Cambroman' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-479

He is travelling with a large party (68) of similarly aged children. I suspect it was one of the many shipments of "Orphans, Waifs and Strays" shipped to Canada to enjoy "A better life"

1901

Could be his mother. Archibald is a Grandson. Possible child of Louis??

1901 England Census
about Mary L Kibble Name: Mary L Kibble
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Moss Side
Ecclesiastical parish: Moss Side Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 84
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
Mary L Kibble 63 Living on own means
Archibald A N Kibble 7 Grandson
Elizabeth H Harrison 25 Cousins
Augusta A Harrison 23
Emma M Matthews 30 Servant

Andy

This on a list of Home Children :

Home Children (1869-1930)
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Return to results | Search | Search HelpSurname: KIBBLEGiven Name: H.Age: 12Sex: FShip: CambromanYear of Arrival: 1900Departure Port: LiverpoolDeparture Date: 7 June 1900Arrival Port: QuebecArrival Date: 16 June 1900Party: Dr Barnardo'sDestination: Peterborough, OntarioComments: From London, Mile End, Whitechapel Workhouses.Notes: The child's given name was illegible or difficult to decipherSource: Library and Archives CanadaReference: RG76 C 1 aMicrofilm: T-479Type of Record: Passenger ListsGroup of Children Traveling Together

On this site:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/index-e.html

Evidently not your comedian!

Thank you one and all, so far.

Louis Hervey Kibble's parents were Hervey Kibble [born 1843 in Scotland] and Mary Louisa Bayley of Manchester.

Louis Hervey Kibble married Eva Cooper in 1892 in Chorlton.

Hervey Kibble had a brother James William Kibble who died in 1902, and all checked out.

Can someone look again in the 1901 and also 1911 for me, please?

Feels like a brick wall and I don't like them!!

Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)
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AUSTIN Jessie May Chorlton 8c 1342
Cooper Eva Chorlton 8c 1342
Kibble Louis Hervey Chorlton 8c 1342
WOODEND Furness Chorlton 8c 1342


According to an article in The Times, 1908 he filed a petition for the dissolotion of his marriage in 1906 on the grounds of wife's adultery...
She is named as Jessie (as above) married Nov. 26th 1892.

Chris :)

(pm your e mail addy if you want article)

Bumping up for Nicola to add her latest request to this thread.

I've changed the thread title, to avoid confusion. Apologies if I contravened GR rules!!

Am contacting kind Chris Ho for the dissolution article. Amazing!

But where, oh where, were Louis and Jessie in 1901?????

Just a thought Nicola - you said he was a comedian, wonder if he had a stage name?

Hello everyone.

Well, this is a colourful character indeed!

Chris Ho has pm'd me an article from The Times under 'Decrees Absolute'. LHK , actor, petitioned his wife for divorce due to her adultery with a chap with a very flambuoyant name ALVARO DE C FERREIRA, by whom she had twins! The decree nisi was granted until the case was intervened due to LKH's adultery in turn. At that point, the decree was rescinded and costs were ordered to be paid by LKH. Oh dear!

The article says that he went by the name of Louis Keane when he committed the adultery.

So, we're looking for a LOUIS HERVEY KIBBLE, Comedian and/or a LOUIS KEANE, Actor.

1901/1911 Censuses, please? And maybe the twins? Goodness knows what name they were registered under. Sometime around 1905/1906, according to the decree details.

This is a juicy one.

1911:

KEANE, Louis Boarder Single M 43 1868 Actor Manchester Lancs

Registration District: Lambeth Sub District: Kennington Enumeration District: 2 Parish: Lambeth

Address: 44 Walcot Square County: London

Edit: One of my London colleagues is called Ferreira - hmmm?

Alvaro in 1911 - no Eva

FERREIRA, Alvaro Head Married M 41 1870 Buyer Of Cotton Goods For A Shipping Merchant Portugal Resident
KIBBLE, Jessie Mau Servant Married 18 years F 40 1871 Housekeeper Domestic Huddersfield Yorkshire
??FERRIERA, Ida May Daughter F 5 1906 Lancs Manchester
KERR, Rhoda Servant Single F 24 1887 Domestic Servant General Cheetham Hill Manchester

Registration District: Chorlton Sub District: Hulme Enumeration District: 48 Parish: South Manchester

Address: 21 Portman St Moss Side County: Lancashire

J/F/M 1906 chorlton lancs
8c 952 Ida and Charles Harold Ferreira/Kibble.
Charles died 1907.

Maryb

Is this the grandson Archibald on 1901 census.

ALVARO Archibald H Kibble Jan 1894 Chorlton 8c 923.

Archibald Hervey kibble 12/1/1894 died 1969 married May G Mouat in 1914.

Maryb

1901 Moss Side Hulme d83 > 2
Alvaro Da Costa Ferreira born Portugal @ 1870
Theresa 1871 portugal
Noemia 1897 portugal.

Maryb

Thank you to MarieCeleste. A thousand thanks.

You are certainly some detective. I am VERY impressed.

The twins were born in 1906, one of each. The boy died a year later.

Eventually, when Jessie May Kibble was the grand age of 75, she and Ferreira married in 1946.

But I still cannot find poor LOUIS HERVEY KIBBLE/LOUIS KEANE after the 1911 census. He seems to have fallen on hard times after all this scandal.

Can anyone see his second marriage and/or his death????

Mary -

Well spotted. Yes, it is definitely the grandson living with his widowed Grandmother.

Goodness only knows what was going on here because little Alvaro is obviously named after his wayward mama's amour but he is born only two years after her marriage to Louis Hervey Kibble. A bit of a kick in the teeth to her husband to name her love child after its papa when she is still married to her husband!!

Hey ho.

Just noticed it was jessie may austin who married Louis and not Eva Cooper as you wrote Nicola.
Her parents were william Fisher Austin 1840 Kingston Surrey and mary maria 1840 london

Marriage???
Louis H keane Manchester North A/M/J 1930 to Gladys Dale 8d 1393

Maryb

Thanks Mary - I'm ashamed that I got the 'wrong' marriage to begin with. It was only Chris Ho who dragged me back from disaster when she noticed the divorce scandal article in The Times which mentioned his wife as Jessie.

And thank you too for spotting the possible marriage for him. I shall investigate.

This has been a revelation - there's scandal, and then there's S.C.A.N.D.A.L.!!!