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17 Apr 2011 22:15 |
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I did trace Clara Harvey. I seems that she married a Frank Northam in 1893. I don't think she was a Jones of any description. I have a fairly clear idea of the family until the 1881 census when William and Ann seem to disappear. Clara Jones got married in 1888 and her father is given as deceased on the marriage cert. I have tried to find the Sarah and Jessie mentioned in the 1871 census but they also seem to disappear and then suddenly in 1901 Annie Capel appears.
I think this is going to have to be put down as one of life's imponderables.
Thanks ot everyone for the tiem and effort.
Sara
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16 Apr 2011 16:12 |
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With William M Jones in 1891 census and 1881 census, there is a Clara J Harvey, single , niece, born 1865. Is there any possibility that she is Clara Jones Harvey and her mother has remarried at some point so Annie is hiding as Annie Harvey? I appreciate that Clara is his sister not his niece, so just a suggestion.
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16 Apr 2011 16:07 |
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Many thanks to you all. I am being called away. I will check again tomorrow.
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16 Apr 2011 15:56 |
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Maddie, I have already posted that.
Could this be Annie, is it worth a gamble?: Births Jun 1867 Jones Annie Hay 11b 161 or are there others that could be this birth in the censuses?
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16 Apr 2011 15:54 |
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I went to Dorstone last week and found the cottage that the family lived in and Annie Capel's grave, unfortunately there wasn't any useful information on it. I have the birth cert for Clara Jones who is the child who would have come before Annie Capel. The parents are William Jones and Ann Jones nee Garrett. I can't fit in the Sarah and Jessie who appear in 1871. I wonder if Annie Capel is Sarah (but can't see why the name would change).
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16 Apr 2011 15:53 |
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father born 1827 in Micklemarch mother 1831 St John Herefordshire
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16 Apr 2011 15:52 |
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1851 for William
The 1851 Census is provided in association with: All 1851 England Census Results 1851 England Census about William Jones Name: William Jones Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Son Father's name: William Jones Mother's name: Ann Jones Gender: M (Male) Where born: Dorstone, Herefordshire, England Civil parish: Dorstone County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Disability: View image Registration district: Hay Sub-registration district: Talgarth ED, institution, or vessel: 6a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 30 Household Members: Name Age William Jones 24 Ann Jones 20 William Jones 3 Walter Jones 1 Sarah Meredith 81 Thomas Watkins 19
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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16 Apr 2011 15:51 |
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maybe 1891 Name: Annie A Jones Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Dorstone, Herefordshire, England Civil parish: Finchley Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:5 Hendon Lane
Occupation:Cook
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Barnet Sub-registration district: Finchley ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1055 Folio: 19 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Edward D Rogers 67 Sophia J Rogers 74 Melissa Rogers 45 Dawson Rogers 41 Alice Rogers 35 Helen Withall 49 Henry Withall 42 Emma Mayes 23 Joseph E Harding 24 Ruth I Harding 20 Edith M Harding 17 Cordelia E Harding 16 Ethel May Harding 11 Annie A Jones 24 >>>>>>b Dorstone Constance Jones 20 >>>>>>>>b Dorstone occ housemaid
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1055; Folio 19; Page 32; GSU roll: 6096165.
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patchem
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16 Apr 2011 15:49 |
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Contact the local society?: http://www.dorstone.org.uk/pages/histsoc.html
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patchem
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16 Apr 2011 15:47 |
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Have you got William's parents in the 1881 census?
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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16 Apr 2011 15:43 |
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1891 census Name: William M Jones Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emily D Jones Gender: Male Where born: Dorstone, Herefordshire, England Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:94 Stapleton Road
Occupation:Grocer & Tea Dealer
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Barton Regis Sub-registration district: St Philip ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1981 Folio: 136 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age William M Jones 43 Emily D Jones 49 Alfred E Jones 18 b Bristol occ chemists asst Emily G A Jones 19 b Bristol occ grocers asst Clara J Harvey 26 niece b Bristol occ groces asst
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1981; Folio 136; Page 6; GSU roll: 6097091.
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Sara
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16 Apr 2011 15:40 |
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You're probably right. Although I'm confident about William Meredith Jones. The question is where was Annie Capel form birth to 1901? Arggggggggg, it's so frustrating.
Sara
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16 Apr 2011 15:38 |
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william on the 1881 census Name: William M. Jones Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emily Jones Gender: Male Where born: Dorston, Hereford, England Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and Jacob Out County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: 94 Stapleton Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Grocer Registration district: Barton Regis Sub-registration district: St Philip & St Jacob ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2496 Folio: 19 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age William M. Jones 34 Emily Jones 39 Emily Jones 10 Alfred Jones 8 Clara Harvey 18 niece Frederick Curtis 14 apprentice
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2496; Folio: 19; Page: 32; GSU roll: 1341602.
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patchem
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16 Apr 2011 15:36 |
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Suggest you get the will to see what was left where and to whom, as that could help prove or disprove your suspicions?
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Sara
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16 Apr 2011 15:31 |
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Thanks very much for all the efforts, especially the will information. I have a lot of information about the Jones family but it is proving very difficult to fit Annie Capel into it. I am a bit concerned that I am looking at 2 different sets of Jones, one set with Annie Capel and one without. The problem is that most of the information that I have seems to go together very well but Annie Capel only appears in 1901. So, it's the early stuff that I need.
Sara
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16 Apr 2011 15:28 |
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William's parents in 1871, when Annie should be showing with them: 1871 England Census Wm Jones Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Jones Gender: Male Where born: Michaelchurch, Herefordshire, England Civil parish: Dorstone Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Dorstone County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Registration district: Hay Sub-registration district: Hay ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 68 Piece: 5593 Folio: 21 Page Number: 14 Wm Jones 44 Ann Jones 40 Sidney Jones 14 George Jones 12 Clara Jones 7 Sarah Jones 4 Jessie Jones 9 Months Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5593; Folio: 21; Page: 14; GSU roll: 850876.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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16 Apr 2011 15:24 |
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1901 census says she was born Dorstone and obviously taken back there for burial Name: Annie Caple Jones Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Dorstone, Herefordshire, England Civil parish: Bristol Ecclesiastical parish: Easton All Hallows County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:Clifton House St Marks Road
Occupation:Housekeeper
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 150 Piece: 2388 Folio: 139 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age William M Jones 53 retired grocer Widower born Dorstone Herefordshire Annie Caple Jones 32
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2388; Folio: 139; Page: 26
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16 Apr 2011 15:19 |
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Tracing William back: 1851 England Census William Jones Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Son Father's name: William Jones Mother's name: Ann Jones Gender: M (Male) Where born: Dorstone, Herefordshire, England Civil parish: Dorstone County/Island: Herefordshire Country: Englandn Registration district: Hay Sub-registration district: Talgarth ED, institution, or vessel: 6a Household schedule number: 30 William Jones 24 Micklechurch, Herefordshire Ann Jones 20 Saint John, Herefordshire William Jones 3 Walter Jones 1 Sarah Meredith 81 Thomas Watkins 19 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2491; Folio: 351; Page: 7; GSU roll: 104253.
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16 Apr 2011 15:17 |
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Close All 1901 England Census Results 1901 England Census about William M Jones Name: William M Jones Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Dorstone, Herefordshire, England Civil parish: Bristol Ecclesiastical parish: Easton All Hallows County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 150 Piece: 2388 Folio: 139 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age William M Jones 53 Annie Caple Jones 32
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16 Apr 2011 15:16 |
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Just for reference: 1901 England Census Annie Caple Jones Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Dorstone, Herefordshire, England Civil parish: Bristol Ecclesiastical parish: Easton All Hallows County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 150 Piece: 2388 Folio: 139 William M Jones 53 Annie Caple Jones 32 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2388; Folio: 139; Page: 26.
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