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I did wondered about the family she worked for but they are not mentioned on the passenger list. I'm in touch with both Carnells and Wards .Emily was my great aunt.Also I'm told the Carnells are a Kent based family . I'm sure none of her siblings went to India. I should have mentioned David died 1907. It is known that military men serving in India were not encouraged to marry until they were quite senior in service. Also single ladies anxious to be married went to India so perhaps some sort of scheme existed to connect them. Just a thought. Jeff Ward.

I presume you have David's service record which is very detailed of the times he returned home and the time he was in India or South Africa it does look extremely unlikely that he did return and meet Emily.

As she worked as a housemaid in 1891, maybe she went to India in the role of a servant or companion to a new post in India. Possibly Miss Ward and the indian servant were both in service.

As a long shot, have you checked for this family travelling to India? You never know!

1891 England Census

Name: Emily Ward servant
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Layham, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Stone
Ecclesiastical parish: Stone St Mary
Town: Stone
County/Island: Kent

Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford

Thomas Bevan 61
Edmund H Bevan 28
Wilfred Bevan 25
Charles A Finnan 28
Emily Ward 26
Emma Gilbey 18
Albert T Dixon 15
June E Brewster 20

Are you in touch with other family members who might know? Otherwise I can't think of anything else than either a family connection, or possibly she had a relation in India, or someone in the military. Or possibly she travelled as a maid or companion? As her father was an agricultural labourer they can't have been well off so it's a real puzzle.
Jan

Thanks for your help, I had the 1911 info, the Wards are siblings of Emily .Alfred's wife had just died and Charlotte brought up Constance as her own. Charlotte never married. nor did Alfred remarry. Emily moved to Melbourne Au. with her children sometime before 1914. In 1917 she married another soldier George Alfred Valentine. Jeff Ward

Emily Ward
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1869 — Layham, Suffolk, England
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence: 1881 — Layham, Suffolk, England
parents:
spouse:
child:
marriage:

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Emily Ward
age: 12
gender: Female
birth year: 1869
birthplace: Layham, Suffolk, England
relationship to head of household: Daughter
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Scholar
address: ?
census place: Layham, Suffolk, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341444
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 1835 / 48
page number: 11

David John Carnell
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth:
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence:
parents:
spouse: Emily
child: Emily Constance Carnell
marriage:

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Emily Constance Carnell
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 1897
baptism/christening place: HABERGHAM-EAVES, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND
birth date: 1891
father's name: David John Carnell
mother's name: Emily
indexing project (batch) number: C39597-6
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1526142

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Name: David John CARNELL
Event type: Marriage
Start date: 10 JanStart year: 1894
End date: End year:
Location: Wesleyan Church, Colaba, Bombay
Spouse: Emily WARD, 29Age:
37Status:
Sgt-Drm, E. Lancs Regt
Parents: EdwardNotes:
Transcribed by: British LibraryIndia Office Records Reference:
N/11/8 f.639 Source name: Source year: Source edition: Presidency: Other

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Name: Emily WARD
Event type: Marriage
Start date: 10 JanStart year: 1894
End date: End year:
Location: Wesleyan Church, Colaba, Bombay
Spouse: David John CARNELL, 37, Sgt-Drm, ; E. Lancs Regt
Age: 29
Status: Parents: RobertNotes:
Transcribed by: British LibraryIndia Office Records Reference:
N/11/8 f.639 Source name: Source year: Source edition: Presidency: Other

I see they were in England by 1901, I assume you have all this info already.
Just in passing, did you have this 1911? I agree, it's intriguing. Is there any chance they were related in some way? It occurs to me because that is how my grandparents met, couldn't figure it out till I found this bit of info!

CARNELL, Emily Head Widow F 43 1868 Boarding Hse Keeper Layham Suffolk VIEW
JOHN, Reginald Wilfred Son Single M 16 1895 Apprentice Engineer Lucknow India VIEW
CONSTANCE, Emily Daughter Single F 14 1897 Burnley Lancashire VIEW
WARD, Charlotte Sister Single F 53 1858 Layham Suffolk VIEW
WARD, Alfred Francis Brother Widower M 31 1880 Messenger Layham Suffolk VIEW
WARD, Constance Sylvia Niece F 1 1910 South Lambeth VIEW
WHEELER, Mary Annie Boarder Single F 30 1881 Skirt Fitter Oxford VIEW
STEWARDSON, Emily Boarder Married
14 years F 36 1875 Dury S Endows VIEW
STEWARDSON, Alma F 11 1900 London VIEW
MALONEY, Margaret Mary Single F 16 1895 General Servant North Kensington VIEW
NORWOOD, Amy Dora Visitor Single F 28 1883 Skirt Fitter Oxford VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
149 Reference:
RG14PN149 RG78PN5 RD2 SD2 ED10 SN361

Registration District:
Kensington Sub District:
Kensington Central Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Kensington

Address:
41 Powis Square County:
London

Emily Ward b 1869 Layham Suffolk married Sergeant David Carnell ,b1855 Devon, of the East Lancs Regt. at Colaba ,Bombay .India 10th Jan 1894.
As in 1891 Emily was a housemaid in Stone ,Kent and David had been in India since Jan. 1880 I am intrigued to know they met. I have found a Miss Ward (no initial ) leaving London on 23-8-1993 on S.S. Clyde for Bombay, but as she was accompanied by a female Indian servant there are doubts that this is Emily. It may be that David met her while on home leave but while I know officers were granted such at this time I'm not sure the arrangement applied to other ranks.Can anyone help please; info ,views, ideas, records to search etc. Regards Jeff Ward