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This guy born in Neath married Sarah Lewis in about 1906
I realise that father would be on his b cert but just wondering if anyone is in Neath records any time ? Thanks

1891 England Census about William Phillips
Name: William Phillips
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Phillips
Mother's name: Mary J Phillips
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Yeovil
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Yeovil
Sub-registration district: Yeovil
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1898
Folio: 73
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
James Phillips 32
Mary J Phillips 30
William Phillips 8
Stanley Phillips 5
James Phillips 3
Flossie Phillips 1

1891 England Census about William Phillips
Name: William Phillips
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Phillips
Mother's name: Mary J Phillips
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Yeovil
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Yeovil
Sub-registration district: Yeovil
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1898
Folio: 73
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
James Phillips 32
Mary J Phillips 30
William Phillips 8
Stanley Phillips 5
James Phillips 3
Flossie Phillips 1

Hope these are of some help to you x

1901 Wales Census about William James Phillips
Name: William James Phillips
Age in 1901: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Phillips
Mother's name: Mary Ann Phillips
Gender: Male
Where born: Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Neath
Ecclesiastical parish: Neath
Town: Neath
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Neath
Sub-registration district: Neath
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 153
Piece: 5058
Folio: 96
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
James Phillips 54
Mary Ann Phillips 54
Sarah Lilian Phillips 19
William James Phillips 17
Hayam G Phillips 12

Thanks Gill but am sure he was born in Neath area and not Cardiff .. But thanks

lol Just as you post the other one :) Will check it out

The only way to check it out is to get his marriage certificate, David. That will give you his father's name so you can look for them in the census. And a census may give you info about his date and place of birth, to look for a birth record.


Start by finding his marriage here

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

The only one I see is in 1903, and if that's him it gives you a middle name for him which helps considerably ... and matches an 1883 birth in Neath. I won't spoil your fun by posting the search results. (If you knew his middle name and birth registration details, you should have given them.)

Do you know when and where he died? That could confirm his middle initial.


Since you don't seem to have answers to your questions, I'd recommend unticking the "answered" thingy. That just means that people won't bother reading the thread even if you post more info / questions.

no not lear on Death pos in Skewen and late 1950s early 1960s

I'm in Canada. Lots of us here aren't in the UK. I've never heard of Skewen. So I google, and it tells me

Skewen
Neath, Neath Port Talbot, UK

When searching for records, it is registration district that matters.

No William E/Edward Phillips with matching age death in Neath or Glamorgan ever, that I can see (assuming you don't have access to Ancestry records, so doing the search for you).

I'd be getting his marriage and birth certificates.

Its one reason why I asked anyone in Neath to , if they could , look it up in their visit to record's office .. I am not in a position to purchase all these records . Health has kept me from working almost 10 yrs now .... But thats another story :) Thanks for all the help anyway and advice .... its all learning and having been out of the loop on this two yrs guess I need telling the basics some again :)

I guess we were all a bit over-eager, I do see that you were looking for a local lookup. I've never seen anybody offering lookups for that area (and not being in the UK myself I'm not sure how these things work, where records are held, and so on).

Now ... I do have a buddy here who deals with Welsh records a lot. I think she's a little poorly herself these days but I'll point her here and if she has any advice she'll get back to you.

Thanks ..... Its good to talk and to know how each others ountry works .. Have cousins in Toronto and also know of one burried somewhere in your vast land but not sure where or when :)

The phone number for Neath Port Talbot Reg office.

(01639) 686868

They may be able to give you any details as to where the records office for the area is...But I cant find one...Although It may be in Tredegar,I think they had a good shuffle around with records,just pray you dont want anything from Carmarthen at any time.........But then again my normal stomping ground is West not South Wales...about 70 miles West...But I can say that the Reg office in Neath were most pleasant and helpful in finding something for me one time..And fast,but I had to buy the cert of course as they wont give details before payment..
Also if he was from a Chapel family and not a church family baptisms are even harder to find as many remain with the chapels and or in Aberystwyth (National Library of Wales)

This looks like the family on 1911 if you dont have it...

PHILLIPS, William E Head Married M 28 1883 Coal Miner Hewer Glamorgan Neath
PHILLIPS, Sarah Wife Married 7 years
F 27 1884 Glamorgan Swansea
PHILLIPS, Idris Son Single M 6 1905 Glamorgan Swansea

Registration District:
Neath Sub District:
Cadoxton Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Coedfranc

3 children born...2 died.
Address:
4 Foundry Row Skewen County:
Glamorganshire


And this looks rather like it is him on 1901

PHILLIPS, William Head Widower M 60 1841 Collier Fireman
Cadoxton Neath
Glamorganshire
PHILLIPS, David Son Single M 22 1879 Haulier Underground (Colliery)
Cadoxton Neath
Glamorganshire
PHILLIPS, William E Son Single M 19 1882 Haulier Underground (Colliery)
Cadoxton Neath
Glamorganshire
PHILLIPS, Sarah E Daughter Single F 17 1884
Cadoxton Neath
Glamorganshire

Registration District:
Neath Sub District:
Cadoxton Enumeration District:
9 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Cattwg

Civil Parish:
Blaenhonddan Municipal Borough:
Address:
Taillwydon, Blaenhonddan County:
Glamorganshire

and 1891

PHILLIPS, William Head Widower M 50 1841 Collier
Cadoxton
Glamorganshire
PHILLIPS, Gwen Daughter Single F 18 1873 Home
Cadoxton
Glamorganshire
PHILLIPS, Hannah Daughter Single F 14 1877 Home
Cadoxton
Glamorganshire
PHILLIPS, David Son M 12 1879 Scholar
Cadoxton
Glamorganshire
PHILLIPS, William E Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Cadoxton
Glamorganshire
PHILLIPS, Sarah E Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Cadoxton
Glamorganshire

Registration District:
Neath Sub District:
Cadoxton Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Cattwg

Civil Parish:
Blaenhonddan Municipal Borough:
Neath Address:
25, Taillwydon Village, Blaenhonddan, Neath County:
Glamorganshire

Mothers name will be Margaret (re 1881,which is free to search)if that is him...Which in my opinion is very likely...
Most probable death for Margaret Phillips is in 1887.

Thanks Fanny ..... that is so helpful in so many ways ..... u cooking on gas .... ;-)

I knew she'd come through. ;)

David -- you do need to untick that "Answered" thing if you want people to read your thread!

Done sis thanks

Certainly do cook on gas..Electric is so unflattering to the looks..
I have just put some peanut butter cookies in my c1960 gas oven as it happens...:)
Trouble is I shall now eat too many as they are delish.

Welsh records are almost as bad as the Irish......But being a good well bred but not born Welshwoman I like the challenge of them.

BUT.......You do need to save some pennies to buy a cert or 2 if you are going to do a good tree as you now have a choice of William Phillips marrying a Margaret ??? in and around the right time and area.....Close call on 2 of them...So methinks you certainly need William E Phillips birth cert,and I dont think you will findthe details for free in Wales...They dont work that way here I have found so far...

PS....William Phillips senior was unmarried on 1871...
But I know where my money goes for his marriage....Enjoy the hunt~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks again Fanny

Have checked on a few sites as you and others have recomended and have come to the conclusion Margaret was 40 when she died . Seems William E is more likely as he fits both job, area and history as passed down in stories in family ... but yes will be saving pennies :) See Gwen was Gwenllian in 1881 and that name crops up in other family records to .....Just no one knew why ... till now so thanks again

Your welcome..

Happy hunting..

Off out up the Cardiganshire/Ceredigion coast to visit a friend now....May be gone sometime...The woman cant half rabbit.....~~~~~