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Hi, I have been researching my family history for a number of years now but have hit the proverbial whilst looking for my father's aunt. Her name was Mary Alice Rose and she was born in 1892 at Tudhoe Grange in Durham. Mary looked after my father and his two brothers when their mother died in childbirth aged 33. I simply cannot find a death/marriage entry for Mary and the last time I can find her is on her sons Joseph Lawrence birth certificate in 1915 . I have gone down all the usual routes death and marriage certs of family connected to her. As far as I'm aware she never married. I have looked at parish records at Coundon where her parents and sister are buried I've even been in contact with relatives of her sons wife but again no luck. Has anyone any bright ideas ??

Many thanks in anticipation

Wendy (Exasperated :-S)

So Lawrence is his middle name and not surname if the birth is registered in Auckland

Is this Joseph who was possibly born out of wedlock?


Births Dec 1915 (>99%)
Rose Joseph L Rose Auckland 10a 393

Was she a witness at the marriage of Joseph ?

Hi, Yes Lawrence was Joseph's middle name and yes he was born out of wedlock.

Cheers!

There is this birth which is more likely:-

Name: ROSE, Mary Alice
Registration District: Durham
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 10A
Page No: 354

Durham registration district covers Tudhoe.

Kath. x

Kath


Can you find her --Mary Alice in 1901 census ---coz I cannot ---on FMP


Renes

I can't see her in the 1901 census but this one is a possibility in the 1911 census:-

STOREY, Joseph Head Married M 60 1851 Coal Hewer Tunstell Yorks
STOREY, Charlotte Wife Married 11 years F 48 1863 Durham City
ROSE, Sarah E Mother Widow F 79 1832 Old Age Pensioner Littleworth Drove Co Durham
ROSE, William E Son Single M 22 1889 Miner Coal Putter Durham City
ROSE, Mary A Daughter Single F 18 1893 Assisting Home Durham City <<<<<<<<<<<
STOREY, Jane A Daughter F 10 1901 School Malton Colliery
FOTHERGILL, Robert Boarder Widower M 53 1858 Coal Miner Hewer Witton Park Co Durham
CHAPMAN, George Visitor Single M 37 1874 Draper Salesman Broughton Yorks

Address:
65 Lincoln Street Leeholme Bp Auckland

Reference:
RG14PN29726 RG78PN1721 RD547 SD1 ED24 SN236

Kath. x

What were the names of her parents and sister?

If the 1911 census is correct then this is the marriage of Joseph and Charlotte:-

Marriages Dec 1900
Storey Joseph Durham 10a 683

Spouse Charlotte Rose.

Kath. x

Many many thanks to you all I really appreciate your help. I do have Mary's birth certificate she was born in 1892 at Tudhoe Grange, Durham. Mary;s parents were Joseph Storey and Charlotte Rose Joseph having been previously maried to a Margaret Croan who sadly died. Mary is on the 1901 census as Alice Storey and on the 1911 census as Mary Alice Rose. On her son's birth certificate she is Mary Alice Rose that was in 1915 iand he was Joseph Lawrence Rose who married a Sarah Longley. The problem I'm having is finding out what happened to Mary, I can't find a marriage or a death for her. Thanks again you're all brilliant :-)

Hi Wendy

Have deleted all my guesses --- sorry

so this is her sons marriage 1947 ( he died in 1988 Durham)

Joseph L Rose
Spouse Surname: Longley
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1947
Registration district: Durham South Eastern
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 1777

Was she a witness of the marriage do you know ------

what was her full date of birth please

btw here's the 1901 census

Address: 14, Sadler's Terrace, Lanchester, Malton Colliery

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

STOREY, Joseph Head Married M 50 1851 Coal Miner (Hewer) Tunstall Yorkshire
STOREY, Charlotte Ann Wife Married F 38 1863 City Durham
STOREY, William Son M 11 1890 City Durham
STOREY, Alice Daughter F 8 1893 City Durham
STOREY, Jane Ann Daughter F 0 (8 MOS) 1901 Malton Colby Durham
DAVISON, Rosey Visitor F 8 1893 City Durham

As asked by Irene and Glitter Baby earlier...Was she a witness on her sons marriage cert?


Has this death been followed up?


Name: ROSE, Alice
Registration District: Houghton Le Spring
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1934
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 42
Volume No: 10A
Page No: 603

This death could also be a possibility:-

Name: ROSE, Alice
Registration District: Durham Central
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1968
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 74
Volume No: 1A
Page No: 280

Kath. x

Hi everyone,

No Mary was not a witness at her sons wedding.

12th September 1892 was her exact date of birth.

Her brother was called William Ernest Rose born 1889 but on his death certificate he was William Storey. Her sister was Jane Ann Storey (My grandmother) Jane ws born 1900 and died 1934.

I do know she was still alive by 1938, so the 1968 death entry could be a possibility but she was called Mary Alice not just Alice.

Huge thanks to you all

Maybe if her brother died under the name of Storey so did she?

Name: STOREY, Mary A
Registration District: Durham North Western
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1963
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 71
Volume No: 1A
Page No: 415

Hi,

I thought the same as you and ordered that death certificate (which I still have) turns out that that one was Mary Ann Storey who died on 11th July 1963 which would have made my Mary 70 and not 71 until the September of that year.....................................

Thanks