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P.H & Cris

Thank you for sending all this information i needed marriages and deaths for the people i listed

Is this my william who died in sept 1906 northampton is that the county ???
as i had plymouth

Did eliz and emily work in this home then ???


Joyce

:-S

Is it possible that Elizabeth and Emily were connected with the "British Home Children" ?

Hmmm, ...maybe??

Deaths Sep 1906 (>99%)
McDowell William Henry 66 Northampton 3b 32

Not that it helps.......but here is Edmund with brother Alfred and his wife.


1901 England Census
about Edmund McDowell
Name: Edmund McDowell
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England

Civil parish: Portsmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marys with St Barnabas
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsmouth
Sub-registration district: Portsea and Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Piece: 999
Folio: 120
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred McDowell 28
May McDowell 19
Edmund McDowell 21

The age is about right!

could this possibly be Elizabeth Charlotte in 1891 ?

Name: Eliza Mc Dowell
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil parish: Great Crosby
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Waterloo
County/Island: Lancashire

Joseph J Cummins 74
Jane Cummins 70
Martha J Cummins 30
Eliza Mc Dowell 21
Louisa Bruce 19

William is a widower in 1891.......


1891 England Census
about W H McDowell
Name: W H McDowell
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Devonport, Alderney, Channel Islands

Civil parish: East Stonehouse
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub-registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1739
Folio: 79
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hore 67
Fanny Hore 67
John Hore 19
George Wetter 30
W H McDowell 43 (Boarder) Boiler Maker
Edmund Dowell 11 (Boarder)

Deaths Jun 1881 (>99%)
McDowell Editha Harriett 34 Stoke D. 5b 203

I edited thet Chris...........got my Edith and Emily in a knot!!

oops, heh heh, I got interrupted by an email from my brother asking me an impossible question about something he has done to his keyboard and I forgot to click Submit ... so there we are, lots of Elizabeth Charlotte :-)


I think it was Emily not Edith born 1875

'Emily b 1875 no marriage or death'

if you try Elizabeth Charlotte McDowell as having a nice distinctive name

Births Dec 1869
McDowell Elizabeth Charlotte Stoke D. 5b 334

and search for any record for that name after that ... there is nothing ... nothing if you make it Elizabeth C McDowell either ...

so she seems to be a dud !


here they are in the 1881 census

William H. Mc Dowell 34
Edith Mc Dowell 35
Elizh. Mc Dowell 12
Alfred Mc Dowell 10
Wm. Mc Dowell 8
Emily Mc Dowell 6
Edmund Mc Dowell 2

Lets start with Elizabeth Charlotte 1869 and Emily 1875 Mcdowell....parents William Henry and Editha......


Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William H. MC DOWELL Head M Male 34 Devonport, Devon, England Asst Boiler Maker
Edith MC DOWELL Wife M Female 35 Penryn, Cornwall, England
Elizh. MC DOWELL Daur Female 12 Devonport, Devon, England Scholar
Alfred MC DOWELL Son Male 10 Devonport, Devon, England Scholar
Wm. MC DOWELL Son Male 8 Devonport, Devon, England Scholar
Emily MC DOWELL Daur Female 6 Devonport, Devon, England Scholar
Edmund MC DOWELL Son Male 2 Devonport, Devon, England

Source Information:
Dwelling 41 Duke Street
Census Place Stoke Damerel, Devon, England

1871 Mistranscribed.......



1871 England Census
about Editha H McDonald
Name: Editha H McDonald
[Editha H McDowell]
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William H McDonald
Gender: Female
Where born: Penryn, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: Stoke Damerel
Ecclesiastical parish: [Mother church]
Town: Devonport
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub-registration district: Clowance
Household Members:
Name Age
William H McDonald 24
Editha H McDonald 24
Elizabeth C McDonald 1

Hi Joyce............ok, just take one or two from the top of the list ..........and then maybe we can help you go through them one or two at a time.

No worries!! PH x

So who shall we start with? :-)

please do not delete, just pick a person and do the sorting in this thread :-)

( it can help to have the info in your first post just for background )

chrissiex

Sorry about that i got carried away and hoped someone could help me even with one marriage or death i will delete it and sort it out one at a time as you suggested but as ive had so many people helping me before i wondered if they would kindly sort my queries out

thank you for the advice

Joyce

you need to clarify for yourself what the people's names were ( no point in giving women's birth names, if they died as married women ) and about when and where they died

this would involve searching for them in censuses to see when they were last living if you do not have that information, for instance

there really is no way for anyone to know what cemetery they were buried in, death certificates even do not give that information

but at least if you knew where they died ( or were living before their death ) you would know where to start looking


examples

Amelia b 1840 married thomas jenkins & john jones no dates

try to find the marriages at freebmd as Flick said

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

then try to find her in the 1881 census for example which is free at Ancestry

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=7572

so you know where she was living


if you do not have a subscription for a site that has the censuses it would probably be wise to take out a free 14 day trial subscription at Ancestry so you can do these searches, which are what anyone else would do to find the information


when you have good clear information about names, dates and places you might get some help ( at least guidance ) at the Devon family history society discussion board but I am sure you would get the same response at present as you get here if you just present that list, that it is too much to expect other people to do all that searching

http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/

http://members.boardhost.com/devonfhs/

Flick
Yes i have tried everything all i get is pay a researcher to find what i want

Shall i reduce the list then

Joyce :-S

I don't think you'll get any 'takers' for such a 'shopping list'......

Try getting marriage info and death year info on freebmd first.........

You can't expect people to find all that for you when it's freely available

Have you thought of contacting the cemetery/cemeteries in the various areas?

Can anyone help me again please
I would like to know what cemetery they were all buried in in devon

William McDowell b 1792 Dock Devon m Mary Ann Gerry 1814 Stoke Damerel Devon he died 1842 Clowance Stoke Damerel Mary died 1837 Plymouth

Amelia b 1819 died 1822 cumberland st
Louisa b 1821 died 1822 cumberland st
Amelia b 1823 died 1824 cumberland st
Thomas b june 1831 died september 1831 quarry st
Thomas b 1833 died 1837 oxford row

Mary Ann b 1817 no marriage or death
William b 1828 morice st m Emma Turner 1853 also eliz young no dates

Parents of Mary and William above ( William and Mary )


Amelia b 1840 married thomas jenkins & john jones no dates
parents of Amelia John mcdowell b 1815 and Charlotte Peageon


Elizabeth Charlotte b 1869 no marriage or death
Emily b 1875 no marriage or death
Parents of the above two William Henry Mcdowell b 1847 & Editha Rundle


I hope i havent confused anyone

Joyce