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Maddie

Thank you very much for your help xx

Jane

the record is dated 10th December 1880 but in the 1881 register
application for relief, Ingleton
ballast guard killed whilst working ballast train
gratuity £5 cost number 2958
maddie

nudge

Hi Maddie + Marieceleste,


Thanks for the above info, William Milnes did work at Guide Bridge, I don't think the other record is him as he died in 1905 in Manchester.

I don't know anything about George, so the stations don't mean anything, Do you know when George died?

Jane

Hi Maddie + Marieceleste,

[Sorry Marieceleste - I overlooked your posting last night!! My apologies and thanks for posting]

William was in Lincolnshire in the 1871 census when his occupation is that of a platelayer. He is in Lancashire in the 1881 census when his occupation is that of a railway signalman - so I dont know whether this would fit in with the records that you have found? So in short, Preston, Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire all could fit.

George - well he was born in Collingham, Notts the same as his brother, so that definately means something. I thought I had found him in Dursley Gloucestershire in the 1881 census - but this may be another George.

May I ask when George was killed? Does it say?

Hi Maddie,

Hmmm .... I was asking for a friend who is a member of GR [Fitzy] - I will point her in the direction of this thread and maybe she will have the answers to your questions.

Thanks for looking Maddie - I will email her straight away so she can see your reply.

Elaine

UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1963
about W Milnes
Name: W Milnes
Residence Date: 1833-1899
Station: Preston
Company: London and North Western
Class Number: 410
Piece: 1802
Description: Register of salaried and Wages staff in various departments, primarily coaching and police. Includes stationmasters, porters, van drivers, office cleaners, guards, clerks, breaksmen, shunters and signalmen. ... 1882 - 1911

This is a list of people who had salary increases for working as breaksmen (his went up from 23/- to 25/- in September 1909)

there is this
relief signal man
UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1963 about W Milnes
Name: W Milnes
Birth Date: abt 1846
Age: 25
Residence Date: 18 Oct 1871
Station: Guide Bridge
Company: Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire
Class Number: 463
Piece: 309
Description: MS & LRAILway & Canal general staff book

UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1963 about Geo Milnes
Name: Geo Milnes
Residence Date: 10 Dec 1880
Company: Midland
Class Number: 491
Piece: 1058
Description: Register of accidents to Company´s servants and others not in Company´s service 1875 - 1888

but he was killed working a ballast train

do these stations mean anything
iew Record G Milnes Collingham Midland
View Record G Milnes Collingham Midland
View Record G Milnes 1872 Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire
View Record G Milne 14 Feb 1881 Edgehill Crewe London and North Western

does any of these have any meaing
View Record George Milnes 18 Oct 1871 Newton Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire
View Record G Milnes 18 Oct 1871 Guide Bridge Coaching Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire
View Record G Milnes 18 Oct 1871 Gudie Bridge Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire
View Record G Milnes 18 Oct 1871 Hyde Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire
View Record G Milnes 18 Oct 1871 Hyde Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire
View Record G Milnes Collingham Midland
View Record G Milnes Collingham Midland
View Record G Milnes 1872 Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire

maddie

Hi Maddie - me AGAIN!!! :-D

Would you please look up 3 people for me?

William Milnes born 1845 Notts - he ended up in Lancashire working for the railway - possibly the Ashton, Stalybridge and Liverpool Junction Railway, the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway and/or the London and North Western Railway?

And his brother and son - both called George Milnes - one born in 1845/8 Notts - think he ended up in Gloucester possibly working for either Bristol and Gloucester Railway,Cheltenham and Great Western Union Railway or/and South Wales Railway - and the other born in 1871 Cheshire - think he may have worked for the Ashton, Stalybridge and Liverpool Junction Railway, the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway and/or the London and North Western Railway?

Hope this is enough info?? - and hope that this is within your scope?? - and hope that I am not being a complete pain in the .... by asking????

Many, many thanks.

Elaine

of course
not a problem
maddie

images x 4 sent
maddie

Maddie,
I have PM`d you.

UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1963 about Walter Stark
Name: Walter Stark
Residence Date: 18 Oct 1877
Station: Firemen
Company: London, Chatham and Dover (East Kent)
Class Number: 415
Piece: 109
Description: Register of staff at Longhedge works and outstations 1860 - 1881

UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1963 about W C Stark
Name: W C Stark
Residence Date: 29 Jun 1885
Company: London, Chatham and Dover (East Kent)
Class Number: 415
Piece: 108
Description: Register of injuries to workmen 1880 - 1891

UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1963 about Walter Stark
Name: Walter Stark
Residence Date: 15 Jan 1862
Station: Battersea
Company: London, Chatham and Dover (East Kent)
Class Number: 415
Piece: 110
Description: Register of staff at Longhedge works and outstations 1864 - 1918


if any are possibles i can send you the image if you pm me your e-mail
maddie

walter stark.
its poss he worked in scotland as a younger man (around 1850`s)
but he moved to stratford,exxes,in around the 1860`s.
i understand he drove trains to and from dover.

if u dont mind,can you see his son Walter Charlie Stark ?
be lived in battersea late 1870`s 1880`s and worked as a railway fireman. later he may have worked on the gloucester area.
Thankyou.

they are on ancestry
do you have his details
maddie

Does anyone know if i can look up railway Staff Records ?
My Gt Grandfather was an Enging Driver,but this was in the very early days, 1860`s to about the 1890`s.
Thankyou,Kev