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Hi had John Whiting Birth Sep 17 1926 states father Porter at St Pauls in the Parish St James . His Father John Death Record if it him says Abode St James aged 42 years Cannot be certain thats him , That will be 1784 his birth date . I cannot find him on the v 8-10 1754-1812 . so still looking . Lesley :

Yes thanks for that but I found him on a Baptismal CD . So hope all will be well .Lesley.

Remember that ages of those over 15 on the 1841 census are rounded down to nearest 5 or 0. An age showing as 15 would be 15-19.

Have sent away for John whiting birth 1926 and John Whiting father Death am waiting to find out if they are Correct . Lesley.

Have found Hannah norton
26 jan 1796 SHepton Mallet
13 feb 1796 Ss Peter & Paul , " Births

Hi Yes I did look at the Census after finding the Marriage in the 1841 Census . But did not know were she was born Thanks for that May be we will find John there also , also were she was after 1841 . that was great . after so long at getting nowhere this is great , I ,am not the best at Genealogy but I have staying power , I don,t all ways look in the right places , so I,am very pleased when someone points me in the right direction I will go hunting , Lesley

This could be that couple it's difficult to tell

BROOKS, James M 35 1806 Somerset VIEW
BROOKS, Hannah F 45 1796 VIEW
CULLIS, Thomas M 20 1821 VIEW
CLARK, William M 25 1816 VIEW

Civil Parish:
St Augustine Municipal Borough:
Bristol Address:
William's Buildings, St Augustine, Bristol County:


In 1851 James has died and she is a Dressmaker living alone


This is her in 1861 as a widow living with her Niece. She gives her birth place as St. George's Bristol. Do you know where hannah Norton was born?

BROOKS, Hannah Head Unmarried F 65 1796 Formerly Dressmaker
St Georges
Gloucestershire VIEW
BROOKS, Hester Niece Unmarried F 50 1811 Upholsteress
St Georges
Gloucestershire VIEW

Civil Parish:
St George Municipal Borough:
Address:
Marshfield Road, St George County:
Gloucestershire

I have found a Marriage Hannah whiting & James Brooks 14/10/1832 St philip & Jacob . lesley

Yes your right John & Hannah daughter Elizabeth was born 1819 . The Elizabeth with Frederick would have been born 1826 . So they got the birth wrong or it,s a differant Elizabeth The 1841 Census are full of misstakes , Thank you for that , Frederick and Sarah had six Children , So to find Hannah and her new Husband , and John,s death . not easy lesley

Can you point me in the direction of Frederick with Elizabeth his sister.
I can't locate him in 1841.

No it's OK I have found them

WHITEING, Frederick M 20 1821 Somerset VIEW
WHITEING, Sarah F 20 1821 Somerset VIEW
WHITEING, Elizth F 15 1826 Somerset VIEW
CHRISP, Betsey F 15 1826 Somerset VIEW


Bristol Address:
Ash Lodge, Temple, Bristol County:
Gloucestershire


But didn't they have a daughter called Elizabeth in 1839/40. Could the enumerator have made a mistake and it should be 15months maybe. if not where is Elizabeth junior?

Yes when you think of it , That is the only course to take , Then he Died between 1826 when John was born and 1841 , when he is not in the 1841 Census , as I have no birth date , it,s not going to be easy ,. Then we can find when Hannah married again as there is no Death that I can see ,for her ,, But why then should Frederick look after Elizabeth 15 . when her Mother is still around . The only thing is to look in St Philip & Jacob and West st as that is the last known address . Lesley Thanks

So how do you know he was alive when Caroline married in 1843?
Because he was not noted as deceased on her marriage certificate does not indicate that he was still alive at that time. Unless you have any other documentary evidence which states he was still alive in 1843 I would seriously begin thinking that he may have died and Hannah re-married.

Thanks. John was not on either Marriage Certs as a witness. just the Friends as witnesses . In the 1841 Census Frederick was married to Sarah Crisp and living in Temple with his Sister Elizabeth 15 and Sarah sister 15 , Caroline I could not find as Whiting but think she was living as Caroline Beaven .John their Brother was 15 and I think was in Prison at the time , So no John or Hannah about , Thanks for your Help Lesley

a child?

parents: John Whiting,? Hannah


name: John Whiting
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 17 Sep 1826
baptism/christening place: St. James, Bristol, Gloucester, England
father's name: John Whiting
mother's name: Hannah
indexing project (batch) number: C00888-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596534

Can I just ask if he attended the marriages personally and signed as a witness or whether he was just noted in the Father's name and occupation columns?

Thank you Cynthia for your guidance , John & Hannah had 5 Children Frederick 1818-1876 St philip & Jacob Elizabeth 1819 St Philip & Jacob Caroline 1821-1823 Caroline 1824 John 1826 St James Bristol , Yes John was on 2 Marriages Frederick 9/12/1838 Holy Trinity West St home address . He was a Coachman , On Caroline 26/9/1843 St Philip & Jacob he was still alive and still a Coach Man . Cannot find him on 1841 Census . or find Hannah ,any where , Cannot find Birth or Death yet , For John or Hannah , I have asked Bristol Records but they come back not the right person , Did get a John Whiting Drown Aged 60 Porter 1846 Cumberland Basin . The fact that he was a Coachman. Cannot find anything on that also , so thank you for asking regards , Lesley

Are you assuming he died after 1843 because it gave an occupation for him on the marriage certificate?
He could have died before 1843, but was just not recorded as deceased.

(Deaths Dec 1837
Whiting John Bristol 11 152)

Do you know if they had any children and when and where they were born?

Were they the couple who has Caroline, Frederick and Elizabeth baptisms listed on Family Search

I see that Caroline married in 1843. Is he present at her wedding?

Did John die before 1827 and Hannah marry Enoch Summers?

spouse: Enock Summers


groom's name: Enock Summers
bride's name: Hannah Whiting
marriage date: 10 Jun 1827
marriage place: Bristol, Gloucester, England
indexing project (batch) number: M00744-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1595891


1841
SUMMERS, Enoch M 40 1801 VIEW
SUMMERS, Hannah F 40 1801 VIEW
SUMMERS, Eliza F 19 1822 Gloucestershire VIEW
SUMMERS, Caroline F 17 1824 Gloucestershire VIEW

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Bristol Address:
Folly Lane, St Philip & Jacob Without, Bristol County:
Gloucestershire


Possible death

name: John Whiting
gender: Male
burial date: 19 Mar 1826
burial place: Bristol, Gloucester, England
age: 42
birth date: 1784
indexing project (batch) number: B02901-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1595982

John Whiting Married Hannah Norton 7/12/1815 Holy Trinity Bristol Death after 1843 , cannot find him 1841 census or Birth or Death can you Help Please Lesley Whiting :-)