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Gillian
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28 Nov 2011 14:19 |
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Hi Rootgatherer - thanks for your help
I have this - which I believe confirms Elsie in Pasture Lane with her family before her marriage to John Fowkes . John Fowkes family also lived in Pasture Lane - so I think it is very likely that it is THIS Elsie that he married and not the Elsie Bentley that you had found. ( really appreciate you telling me though & I will try to double check that Elsie out - as much as I can ( to completely eliminate her) Gill
1911 Census: (Elsie, 31, Pasture Lane) BENTLEY, Charles Head Married M 50 1861 Chimney Sweep Leicester BENTLEY, A Wife Married F 48 1863 Leicester Leicestershire BENTLEY, Annie Daughter F 27 1884 Wool Spinner Worslett Dover Leicester >BENTLEY, Elsie Daughter Single F 18 1893 Wool Spinner Doubler Leicester BENTLEY, Lizzie Son M 11 1900 Leicester Leicestershire BENTLEY, Leonard Son M 11 1900 Leicester Leicestershire BENTLEY, Ernest Son M 8 1903 Leicester Leicestershire BENTLEY, Daisy Daughter F 6 1905 Leicester Leicestershire RG number: RG14 Piece: 19168 Reference: RG14PN19168 RG78PN1150A RD407 SD1 ED4 SN285 Registration District:Leicester Sub District: North West Leicester Enumeration District:4 Parish: Leicester Address: 31 Pasture Lane Leicester County: Leicestershire
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24 Nov 2011 16:21 |
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http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1284026
Do you have the marriage certificate for the marriage posted?
Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bentley Elsie Fowkes Leicester 7a 388 *** Cooper William J Highton Leicester 7a 388 Fowkes John Bentley Leicester 7a 388 *** Highton Elsie W Cooper Leicester 7a 388
Are you just assuming that because John and his Elsie lived at Pasture Lane after they married that his wife lived there with her family before her marriage?
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Jonesey
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24 Nov 2011 16:04 |
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Name: Enoch Bentley Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Bentley Gender: Male Where born: Cheadle, Staffordshire, England Occupation: Stone Masons labourer
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24 Nov 2011 16:03 |
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How did you get back to Elsie please? Do you have her marriage certificate or can you say who she married please?
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Gillian
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24 Nov 2011 16:02 |
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THats really great - thank you all...........
much appreciated.
ps - does it give Enochs fathers occupation please
thanks again
Gill
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24 Nov 2011 16:01 |
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As the Elsie entry is marked on the 1911 census I just wondered if you were aware that there is another Elsie in the same area born around the same time.
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Name: Elsie Bentley Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Arthur Bentley Mother's Name: Mary A Bentley Gender: Female Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Leicester Formerly St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street Address: 3 Berkley Street
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: North West Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 168 Piece: 2988 Folio: 106 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Bentley 34 Shoe Finisher Mary A Bentley 32 Elsie Bentley 8
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Jonesey
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24 Nov 2011 15:57 |
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1861???
Name: Enoch Bentley Age: 8 MO Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's Name: Enoch Bentley Mother's Name: Caroline Bentley Gender: Male Where born: Marchington, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Burton Upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: St Modwen Town: Burton Upon Trent County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
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View image Registration district: Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Burton Upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 171 Piece: 1964 Folio: 124 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age Enoch Bentley 27 born Cheadle, Staffordshire Caroline Bentley 32 born Marchington, Staffordshire Ann Bentley 6 Caroline Bentley 2 Enoch Bentley 8 MO
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Name: Enoch Bentley Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Son Father's Name: Enoch Bentley Mother's Name: Catherine Bentley Gender: Male Where born: Marchington, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Leicester St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Leicester County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: West Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Household schedule number: 57 Piece: 3286 Folio: 75 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Enoch Bentley 38 Catherine Bentley 42 Enoch Bentley 10 Ann Bentley 16 Caroline Bentley 12 Sarah A Bentley 8
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Flick
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24 Nov 2011 15:56 |
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For complete accuracy.....buy her birth cert
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Gillian
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24 Nov 2011 15:52 |
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The family that I am looking for has Elsie Bentley as a daughter born c1893
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jansmith
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24 Nov 2011 15:51 |
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you need to look at the 1911 image as there are some transcription errors and more info
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Jonesey
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24 Nov 2011 15:51 |
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Possibility: Marriages Jun 1882 (>99%) BENTLEY Enoch Leicester 7a 383 Fowkes Annie Leicester 7a 383
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Gillian
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24 Nov 2011 15:51 |
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Here in 1911 BENTLEY, Charles Head Married M 50 1861 Chimney Sweep Leicester
1891 - Enock Bentley 30 - occupation?
1901 BENTLEY, Enoch Head Married M 41 1860 Chimney Sweep Burton on Trent
Was it Charle or Enoch ? Was he born Leicester or Burton on Trent?
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24 Nov 2011 15:49 |
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Marriages Jun 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BENTLEY Enoch Leicester 7a 383 Fowkes Annie Leicester 7a 383 MILES Joseph Allen Leicester 7a 383 WALKER Hannah Leicester 7a 383
Marriages Jun 1881 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BENTLEY Charles Henry Leicester 7a 418 CRAWFORD William Leicester 7a 418 PERRY Mary Jane Leicester 7a 418 VERNON Hannah Leicester 7a 418
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Choccy
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24 Nov 2011 15:49 |
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possibly
Marriages Jun 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>BENTLEY Enoch Leicester 7a 383 >>Fowkes Annie Leicester 7a 383 MILES Joseph Allen Leicester 7a 383 WALKER Hannah Leicester 7a 383
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Flick
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24 Nov 2011 15:48 |
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Deleted my info - it was based on incorrect data posted for 1891 census
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Choccy
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24 Nov 2011 15:46 |
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1891
?, Enoch Head Married M 30 1861 Chimney Sweep ? VIEW ?, Annie Wife Married F 27 1864 Wool Doubler ? VIEW ?, Annie Daughter Single F 7 1884 Scholar ? VIEW ?, Minnie Daughter Single F 3 1888 ? VIEW ?, Ernest Son Single M 1 1890 ? VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 2535 Folio: 88 Page: 5 Registration District: Leicester Civil Parish: Leicester Municipal Borough: Leicester Address: 18, Pasture Lane, Leicester County: Leicestershire
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Jonesey
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24 Nov 2011 15:45 |
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1891:
Name: Enoch Bentley [Enock] Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Annie Gender: Male Civil parish: St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street Address: 18 Pasture lane
Occupation: Impossible to tell due to poor image.
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: East Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 88 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2535 Folio: 88 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Enock Bentley 30 Annie Bentley 27 Annie Bentley 7 Minnie Bentley 3 Ernest Bentley 1
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Gillian
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24 Nov 2011 15:45 |
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Thanks Folks
Jonesey - do you have confirmation ofoccupations & street address please?
Many thanks
sorry - you are too quick for me & our postings ' crossed'
Im a bit puzzled is it Charles or Enoch??
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24 Nov 2011 15:44 |
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1901 might be but fathers name?
Address: 36, Pasture Lane, Leicester County: Leicestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born BENTLEY, Enoch Head Married M 41 1860 Chimney Sweep Burton on Trent Staffordshire BENTLEY, Annie Wife Married F 38 1863 Leicester BENTLEY, Annie Daughter Single F 17 1884 Cotton Spinner Leicester BENTLEY, Minnie Daughter Single F 13 1888 Office Girl At Cotton Mill Leicester BENTLEY, Elsie Daughter Single F 7 1894 Leicester BENTLEY, Elizabeth Daughter F 5 1896 Leicester BENTLEY, Leonard Son M 0 (11 MOS) 1901
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Jonesey
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24 Nov 2011 15:43 |
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Something seems odd. This looks like some of them in 1901:
Name: Elsie Bentley Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Enoch Bentley Mother's Name: Annie Bentley Gender: Female Where born: Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Leicester Formerly St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: North West Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 57 Piece: 2988 Folio: 80 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Enoch Bentley 41 Annie Bentley 38 Annie Bentley 17 Minnie Bentley 13 Elsie Bentley 7 Elizabeth Bentley 5 Leonard Bentley 11 Months
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