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William Greenwood 1836 Crompton

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Simon

Simon Report 4 Feb 2012 08:30

Thsnks Both

I will buy the birth certs for Hannah and marriage cert for William

Both should say Richard Greenwood of Crompton who I believe died in 1838. He was in 20's already married with 3 chilldren.

patchem

patchem Report 3 Feb 2012 23:41

If this is them in 1841, then Hannah's birth certificate will have Father's name also: (Address looks like Fir Lane, as in 1851)
1841 England Census
William Greenwood Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Prestwich Cum Oldham Hundred: Salford County/Island: Lancashire
Registration district: Ashton and Oldham Sub-registration district: Crompton
Piece: 545 Book: 8 Folio: 7 Page Number: 7
Betty Greenwood 30 washerwoman
William Greenwood 5
Hannah Greenwood 2
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 545; Book: 8; Civil Parish: Prestwich Cum Oldham; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 8; Folio: 7; Page: 7; Line: 18; GSU roll: 306929.

patchem

patchem Report 3 Feb 2012 23:37

Is this he in 1851?
William Greenwood
Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Son Mother's name: Betty Greenwood
Gender: M (Male) Where born: Crompton, Lancashire, England
Ecclesiastical parish: Shaw County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Street Address: Tin Lane? Registration district: Oldham Sub-registration district: Royton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1h Household schedule number: 24 Piece: 2243 Folio: 446 Page Number: 7
Betty Greenwood 42 washerwoman
William Greenwood 15
source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2243; Folio: 446; Page: 7; GSU roll: 87259-87260.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 3 Feb 2012 23:31

you need to buy the death certificate of the William given above
(death 1899) to see if the details match your Wiliam or find a probate record or will which may help.

What makes you think William's father was called Richard. have you got his marriage certificate to Hannah?

patchem

patchem Report 3 Feb 2012 23:27

Why do you think he is alive in 1901?
Have you got him in 1841 with his Father?
Have you got his Father's name from his marriage certificate?
Have you got information on his birth?

Simon

Simon Report 3 Feb 2012 20:53

Thanks everyone but I am confused

Was William alive in 1901?

Is this his dad?

Name: Richard Greenwood
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Oct 1809
> Baptism/Christening Place: Shaw Chapel, Oldham, Lancashire, England
> Father's Name: James Greenwood
Mother's Name: Jane
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04743-2 **
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1545708
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 2 Feb 2012 23:52

the connection between Henry & Samuel - presumably Hannah's sisters son

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
LOMAX Samuel Elson Oldham Below Town Oldham WHATMOUGH OBT/102/318

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Feb 2012 23:25

Samuel Lomax was with William & Hannah in the 1881 & 1891. Seeing as he's with their son James in 1901 suggests William & Hannah may no longer be around:

GREENWOOD, James Head Single M 38 1863 Iron Labourer Royton Lancashire
LOMAX, Samuel E Cousin Single M 27 1874 Iron Turner Oldham Lancashire
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Registration District: Oldham
Civil Parish: Royton

Address: 203a, Oldham Road, Royton County: Lancashire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Feb 2012 23:18

Possible death for Hannah?

Deaths Mar 1896
Greenwood Hannah 59 Oldham 8d 534

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 2 Feb 2012 23:13

good point patchem

this death could fit

Deaths Mar 1899 (>99%)
Greenwood William 63 Oldham 8d 591

patchem

patchem Report 2 Feb 2012 22:56

How do you know he is still alive in 1901?

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 2 Feb 2012 22:44

There were probably tmore than 2 in the Rochdale and Oldham area.I have one set in my tree of similar ages.

if it helps to identify the family by mmn which is available for all years on lancsbmd for Oldham

Hannah's maiden name was Whatmough

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1866
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GREENWOOD Ann Crompton Oldham WHATMOUGH CR/14/278

I would guess this is the annie in GB's 1901

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1875
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GREENWOOD Annie A Wardleworth Rochdale W/44/95

Simon

Simon Report 2 Feb 2012 21:52

Annie would have been 36 in 1901 not 26.
Unless there were two

Thanks for your help

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Feb 2012 21:49

If you can not answer my questions then waste of my time trying to help

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Feb 2012 21:48

1901 only because of location
Name: William Greenwood
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Greenwood
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Rochdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub-registration district: Wardleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 147
Piece: 3841
Folio: 14
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
William Greenwood 66
Hannah Greenwood 65
Annie Greenwood 26

Simon

Simon Report 2 Feb 2012 21:47

Thats them Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Feb 2012 21:44

For location

1881 England Census

Name: William Greenwood
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Greenwood
Gender: Male
Where born: Crompton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: Rochdale Road 100 Coldhurst St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Fustian Cutter

Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town

William Greenwood 45
Hannah Greenwood 45
Henry Greenwood 19
James Greenwood 18
Ann Greenwood 15
Samuel Lomax 7

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Feb 2012 21:44

Where is Crompton ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Feb 2012 21:43

Where was he in 1891

Places of birth for kids etc

Simon

Simon Report 2 Feb 2012 21:37

Where is he in 1901?

He married Hannah

Lots of kids
Henry
James
Ann
William