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samuel mason

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Larraine

Larraine Report 3 Feb 2012 20:57

I want to find the whereabouts of my great grandfather Samuel Mason in 1861 & 1871. He was born in 1856 in South Shields County Durham. His parents were David and Margaret Mason. Can anyone help? Thanks Larraine Nicholson

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Feb 2012 21:01

1861?

1861 England Census about Samuel Mason
Name: Samuel Mason
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Susannah Whiting
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England
Civil parish: Westoe
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 222
Piece: 3788
Folio: 110
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
Susannah Whiting 22 born: Scotland (Seaman's Wife)
Margaret Mason 28 born: Alnmouth, Northumberland, England (Seaman's Wife)
Samuel Mason 4


1861 England Census about David Mason
Name: David Mason
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Mate
Gender: Male
Where born: Kinghorn, Fife, Scotland
Civil parish: Vessels
Town: At Sea
County/Island: Misc Ships At Sea or Abroad
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:
Registration district: Misc Ships
Sub-registration district: Misc Ships
ED, institution, or vessel: Ensign
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 4446
Folio: 161
Household Members:
Name Age
George Swan 30
David Mason 29
John Pari 22
John Moran 31

Andrew

Andrew Report 3 Feb 2012 21:03

1861 England Census
about Samuel Mason
Name: Samuel Mason
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Susannah Whiting
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England

Civil parish: Westoe
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 222
Piece: 3788
Folio: 110
Page Number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
Susannah Whiting 22
Margaret Mason 28
Samuel Mason 4


Andy

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 Feb 2012 21:05

How do you know the names of his parents ?

Andrew

Andrew Report 3 Feb 2012 21:06

Poosible Margaret 1871

1871 England Census
about Margaret Mason
Name: Margaret Mason
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Alnmouth, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Westoe
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 166
Piece: 5032
Folio: 51
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Mason 38
Mary A Mason 2


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 3 Feb 2012 21:09

Parents marriage?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1854 (>99%)
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Mason David South Shields 10a 519
Swan Margaret S Shields 10a 519


Andy

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Feb 2012 21:11

Maybe?
If this is him, then could be he was at sea in 1871?

England and Wales Census, 1881 for Samuel Mason
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name: Samuel Mason
age: 24
gender: Male
birth year: 1857
birthplace: So Shields, Durham, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Mariner
address: 129 Eldin St
census place: Westoe, Durham, England
disability:
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342208
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 5016 / 33
page number: 60
Household Gender Age
Samuel Mason M 24
spouse Ann J Mason F 23

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Feb 2012 21:23

Father David?
1911 England Census about David Mason
Name: David Mason
Age in 1911: 79
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation to Head: Father-in-law
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Kinghorn, Fifeshire
Civil parish: South Shields
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 101 South Frederick Street South Shields Durham
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Master Mariner
Registration district: South Shields
Registration District Number: 556
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 56
Piece: 30315
Household Members:
Name Age
George Robert Rutherford 44
Mary Ann Rutherford 41
Albert Rutherford 16
Elsie Rutherford 11
David Mason 79


1901 England Census about David Mason
Name: David Mason
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret A Mason
Gender: Male
Where born: Fife, Scotland
Civil parish: South Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: master mariner

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Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 66
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 252
Piece: 4736
Folio: 25
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
David Mason 69
Margaret A Mason 68



1891 England Census about David Mason
Name: David Mason
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Mason
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Westoe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:Seaman

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4160
Folio: 23
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
David Mason 59
Margaret Mason 58
David Mason 9

Larraine

Larraine Report 4 Feb 2012 18:34

thank everyone for taking the time to help me find my great grandfather in 1861. Margaret Mason is definately Samuel's mother as I have his birth certificate. Susannah Whiting must have been lodging with Margaret in 1861. I have already got the 1871 and 1881 census for Margaret and daughter Mary Anne. With regards to Samuel's whereabouts in 1871 he would be 14 years old so he may have been at sea or visiting his Scottish grandparents. The listing on the 1881 census is Samuel he married Ann Isabella Blenkinsop in November of 1879 As a point of interest Samuel and his father David both became master mariners. Thank you once again for all your help' your all brilliant. Larraine

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Feb 2012 22:52

Hi Larraine


Just one point, the way that the census information is given .........

Household Members: Name Age
Susannah Whiting 22
Margaret Mason 28
Samuel Mason 4


............... indicates that Margaret is lodging with Susannah ................ the head of house (or wife of head) is always listed first.


and hence one reason why an unthinking transcriber made this mistake:-

Name: Samuel Mason
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Susannah Whiting <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England



In fact, when one actually looks at the census image (!!!!!) .................. the two women are NOT LIVING TOGETHER!!!


They are next door neighbours:-


Susannah Whiting .............. Address:- 3 Havelock Street

Margaret Mason ................. Address:- 4 Havelock Street


The two households are separated on the image by a double black line, in addition to the two different house addresses.





sylvia

Larraine

Larraine Report 5 Feb 2012 00:14

Dear Sylvia' Thank you for your reply. I knew it had to be a mistake as I have Samuel's birth certificate listing David And Margaret Mason as his parents. Larraine.