Profile | Posted by | Options | Post Date |
|
Shirley
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 18:22 |
Hi, got the death Cert for my GGgrandmother Mary Welbourne who died Hessle Hull . 1905 (Sculcoates Reg District). Her name spelt Wellbourne. Her Daughter Eliza Bennett was present at the death. Eliza Welbourne was born 1867 in Lincolnshire. I have looked but seem unable to find a marriage to a Mr 'Bennett' Can anyone help please. thanks - Shirley
|
|
Shirley
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 18:36 |
Hi, you are of course right, she could have been married twice.............................that makes it even more complicated. But since I have looked and looked it is maybe why I cannot find the marriage. thanks Shirley
|
|
Jan.
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 18:38 |
Could this be her marriage?
Marriages Dec 1888
BENNETT Susan Gainsbro' 7a 1329 LINDLEY Albert William Gainsbro' 7a 1329 **Newton William Gainsbro' 7a 1329 **WELBOURNE Annie Eliza Gainsbro' 7a 1329
|
|
Shirley
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 18:43 |
She is an Eliza ( but maybe preffered Annie)......................so if I look at these two chaps incase they died early and see if Eliza Lindley/Newton married a Bennett!!!! Some serious study to be done I thinks Shirley
|
|
GlitterBaby
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 18:49 |
Which is the last census you have Eliza on as a single person ?
|
|
Shirley
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 18:57 |
Hi, 1881 Census. Actually just looked up the LDS Site and Annie Eliza Welbourne's father is given as John Welbourne. So Maybe she did Marry Wm Newton & So maybe she did prefer the name Annie Her parents were Mary and John Welbourne who are last seen on Census 1901 Binbrook Lots of maybes' better see if Wm Newton died prematurely Shirley
|
|
GlitterBaby
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 18:59 |
1911 no idea if relevant or not
BENNETT, Eliza Patient Married 22 years F 42 1869 Lincolnshire Toltingham VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 28073 Reference: RG14PN28073 RD511 SD2 ED31 SN9999 Registration District: Rotherham Sub District: South East Rotherham Enumeration District: 31 Parish: Rotherham Address: Alma Road Rotherham
1901 same person Name: Eliza Bennett Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Bennett Gender: Female Where born: Folkingham, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Rotherham Ecclesiastical parish: Kimberworth St Thomas Town: Rotherham County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Rotherham Sub-registration district: North West Rotherham ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 84 Piece: 4397 Folio: 11 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age William Bennett 36 Eliza Bennett 34
|
|
Shirley
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 19:18 |
Hi, I think Eliza was born Great Coates, but this looks hopeful.
She was christened according to LDS Nov 1866.
I assumed that Mary Welbourne died at her daughters home in Hessle on account John Welbourne her husband died in the Louth Union Wokhouse - so not alot of money.
|
|
Mike *
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 19:46 |
Not at home in 1881
Benjamin BRIGGS Head M Male 31 Burg Le Marsh, Lincoln, England Auctioneer And Valuer Gertrude BRIGGS Wife M Female 34 Melton Mowbray, Leicester, England Caroline M. BRIGGS Daur Female 3 Calcethorpe, Lincoln, England Gertrude A. BRIGGS Daur Female 2 Calcethorpe, Lincoln, England Benjamin G. BRIGGS Son Male 6 m Calcethorpe, Lincoln, England Elizabeth WARRENER Serv U Female 35 South Clifton, Nottingham, England Nurse (SMS) Selina PHILLIPS Serv U Female 23 Saltfleetby, Lincoln, England Cook Sarah SMITH Serv U Female 23 Grimoldby, Lincoln, England Housemaid >>>>> Eliza WELBOURNE Serv Female 14 Great Cotes, Lincoln, England Under Nurse
|
|
Mike *
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 19:52 |
Not sure about the Annie marriage.
She was registered just as Eliza
Births Dec 1866 Welbourne Eliza - Caistor 7a 571
Caistor covers Great Cotes
|
|
greyghost
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 20:00 |
?? Is this Annie Eliza in 1891 - Great Cotes is less than 2 miles from Grimsby - with William. Looks as though it is his second marriage
1891 census transcription details for: 136, Weelsby Street, Clee With Weelsby, New Clee, Grimsby
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 2617 Folio: 88 Page: 15
Reg. District: Caistor Sub District: Great Grimsby Parish: Clee with Weelsby Enum. District: 33 Ecclesiastical District: St John City/Municipal Borough: Grimsby Address: 136, Weelsby Street, Clee With Weelsby, New Clee, Grimsby County: Lincolnshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age BirthYear Occupation ,Disability Where Born NEWTON, William H Head Married M 37 1854 Blacksmith Grimsby Lincolnshire NEWTON, Annie E Wife Married F 24 1867 Grimsby Lincolnshire NEWTON, Freeman N Son Single M 14 1877 Clerk Grimsby Lincolnshire NEWTON, Gertrude Daughter Single F 12 1879 ScholarGrimsby Lincolnshire NEWTON, Florence Daughter Single F 11 1880 Scholar Grimsby Lincolnshire NEWTON, William Son Single M 10 1881 Scholar Grimsby Lincolnshire NEWTON, Alfred Son Single M 8 1883 Scholar Grimsby Lincolnshire NEWTON, ? Son Single M 6 1885 Scholar Grimsby Lincolnshire NEWTON, Walter Son Single M 5 1886 Scholar Grimsby Lincolnshire NEWTON, Ernest Son Single M 0 (11M) 1891 Grimsby Lincolnshire
|
|
Mike *
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 20:02 |
Unfortunately it might be this one
Marriages Sep 1898 SMITH Sam - Grantham 7a 967 WELBOURN Eliza - Grantham 7a 967
|
|
greyghost
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 20:07 |
A William Newton dies Dudley, Staffs MAr Qtr 1894 age 42 and
Ann Eliza Newton marries Dudley, Staffs Jun Qtr 1895 to William Bennett
All between census' - need to have a look where the Newton children are in 1901 and where are the Bennetts
|
|
Ivy
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 20:08 |
Edit: following up on the William and Eliza of Rotherham, for 1891:
Name: Eliza Bennett Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Bennett Gender: Female Where born: Icklingham, Lincolnshire, England (image shows Folkingham) Civil parish: Rotherham Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens Town: Rotherham County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Rotherham Sub-registration district: Rotherham ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 3846 Folio: 95 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age William Bennett 25 Eliza Bennett 23 Harry Boulton 12
But this William and Eliza match to an Eliza Barnes:
1871:
Eliza Barnes dau of William/Sarah b abt 1868 Folkingham, Lincolnshire, England Living in Folkingham, Lincolnshire
Jan-Feb-Mar 1888 marriage Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding:
Eliza Barnes and William Bennett
|
|
Mike *
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 20:10 |
This may be the Annie Eliza that married Newton
Births Sep 1868 WELBORN Anne Eliza - Grantham 7a 439
|
|
Ivy
|
Report
|
7 Feb 2012 21:23 |
You mentioned that Mary may have died at her daughter's home in Hessle, so I wondered if there was an Eliza living in Hessle but born in Lincolnshire (to try to track down a spouse); however, it seems more likely that she was living with the elder daughter Annie, fi this marriage and 1901 census match up:
Marriages Jun 1885 Sculcoates 9d 201 HALDENBY Mary Jane Peart Charles Revill John Robert Welbourne Annie
1901: Name: Annie Peart Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles Peart Gender: Female Where born: Binbrook, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Hessle Ecclesiastical parish: Hessle All Saints Town: Hessle County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Sculcoates Sub-registration district: Hessle ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 114 Piece: 4474 Folio: 41 Page Number: 19
Name Age Charles Peart 39 Annie Peart 36 Edith Ellen Peart 15 Elsie Peart 13 John Herbert Peart 10 Madelin Annie Peart 4
and in 1871:
Name: Annie Welbourne Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Welbourne Mother's name: Mary Welbourne Gender: Female Where born: Binbrook, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Habrough Town: Habrough County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Caistor Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Household schedule number: 70 Piece: 3417 Folio: 59 Page Number: 14
Name Age John Welbourne 42 Mary Welbourne 43 George Welbourne 8 Annie Welbourne 6 Eliza Welbourne 4 Charles Welbourne 2
So perhaps Eliza came to stay with Mary and Annie just for a short visit in 1905?
|
|
Shirley
|
Report
|
8 Feb 2012 18:04 |
Hi, thanks for the work on this folks. The address Mary Welbourne died was Hawthorne Avenue in Hessle. Initially I thought she must be with her other daughter Annie Peart who also lived in Hessle. But according to the Census 1901 & 1911 the Annie and Charles Peart live in Tower Hill Terrace, Hessle. So still all uncertain, unless Eliza was 'shacked up' with a Mr. Bennett and never got round to making it official. Thanks for all the hard work
|