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Welbourne/Bennet marriage

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Shirley

Shirley Report 7 Feb 2012 18:22

Hi,
got the death Cert for my GGgrandmother Mary Welbourne who died Hessle Hull . 1905 (Sculcoates Reg District). Her name spelt Wellbourne.
Her Daughter Eliza Bennett was present at the death.
Eliza Welbourne was born 1867 in Lincolnshire.
I have looked but seem unable to find a marriage to a Mr 'Bennett'
Can anyone help please.
thanks - Shirley

Shirley

Shirley Report 7 Feb 2012 18:36

Hi,
you are of course right, she could have been married twice.............................that makes it even more complicated. But since I have looked and looked it is maybe why I cannot find the marriage.
thanks
Shirley

Jan.

Jan. Report 7 Feb 2012 18:38

Could this be her marriage?

Marriages Dec 1888

BENNETT Susan Gainsbro' 7a 1329
LINDLEY Albert William Gainsbro' 7a 1329
**Newton William Gainsbro' 7a 1329
**WELBOURNE Annie Eliza Gainsbro' 7a 1329

Shirley

Shirley Report 7 Feb 2012 18:43

She is an Eliza ( but maybe preffered Annie)......................so if I look at these two chaps incase they died early and see if Eliza Lindley/Newton married a Bennett!!!!
Some serious study to be done I thinks
Shirley

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Feb 2012 18:49

Which is the last census you have Eliza on as a single person ?

Shirley

Shirley Report 7 Feb 2012 18:57

Hi,
1881 Census.
Actually just looked up the LDS Site and Annie Eliza Welbourne's father is given as John Welbourne.
So Maybe she did Marry Wm Newton & So maybe she did prefer the name Annie
Her parents were Mary and John Welbourne who are last seen on Census 1901 Binbrook
Lots of maybes' better see if Wm Newton died prematurely
Shirley

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Feb 2012 18:59

1911 no idea if relevant or not

BENNETT, Eliza Patient Married
22 years F 42 1869 Lincolnshire Toltingham VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
28073 Reference:
RG14PN28073 RD511 SD2 ED31 SN9999

Registration District:
Rotherham Sub District:
South East Rotherham Enumeration District:
31 Parish:
Rotherham

Address:
Alma Road Rotherham



1901 same person
Name: Eliza Bennett
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Bennett
Gender: Female
Where born: Folkingham, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Rotherham
Ecclesiastical parish: Kimberworth St Thomas
Town: Rotherham
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Rotherham
Sub-registration district: North West Rotherham
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Piece: 4397
Folio: 11
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
William Bennett 36
Eliza Bennett 34

Shirley

Shirley Report 7 Feb 2012 19:18

Hi,
I think Eliza was born Great Coates, but this looks hopeful.

She was christened according to LDS Nov 1866.

I assumed that Mary Welbourne died at her daughters home in Hessle on account John Welbourne her husband died in the Louth Union Wokhouse - so not alot of money.

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Feb 2012 19:46

Not at home in 1881


Benjamin BRIGGS Head M Male 31 Burg Le Marsh, Lincoln, England Auctioneer And Valuer
Gertrude BRIGGS Wife M Female 34 Melton Mowbray, Leicester, England
Caroline M. BRIGGS Daur Female 3 Calcethorpe, Lincoln, England
Gertrude A. BRIGGS Daur Female 2 Calcethorpe, Lincoln, England
Benjamin G. BRIGGS Son Male 6 m Calcethorpe, Lincoln, England
Elizabeth WARRENER Serv U Female 35 South Clifton, Nottingham, England Nurse (SMS)
Selina PHILLIPS Serv U Female 23 Saltfleetby, Lincoln, England Cook
Sarah SMITH Serv U Female 23 Grimoldby, Lincoln, England Housemaid
>>>>> Eliza WELBOURNE Serv Female 14 Great Cotes, Lincoln, England Under Nurse

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Feb 2012 19:52

Not sure about the Annie marriage.

She was registered just as Eliza


Births Dec 1866
Welbourne Eliza - Caistor 7a 571

Caistor covers Great Cotes

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Feb 2012 20:00

?? Is this Annie Eliza in 1891 - Great Cotes is less than 2 miles from Grimsby - with William. Looks as though it is his second marriage


1891 census transcription details for: 136, Weelsby Street, Clee With Weelsby, New Clee, Grimsby

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2617 Folio: 88 Page: 15


Reg. District: Caistor Sub District: Great Grimsby
Parish: Clee with Weelsby Enum. District: 33
Ecclesiastical District: St John City/Municipal Borough: Grimsby
Address: 136, Weelsby Street, Clee With Weelsby, New Clee, Grimsby
County: Lincolnshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age BirthYear Occupation ,Disability Where Born
NEWTON, William H Head Married M 37 1854 Blacksmith Grimsby Lincolnshire
NEWTON, Annie E Wife Married F 24 1867 Grimsby Lincolnshire
NEWTON, Freeman N Son Single M 14 1877 Clerk Grimsby Lincolnshire
NEWTON, Gertrude Daughter Single F 12 1879 ScholarGrimsby Lincolnshire
NEWTON, Florence Daughter Single F 11 1880 Scholar Grimsby Lincolnshire
NEWTON, William Son Single M 10 1881 Scholar
Grimsby Lincolnshire
NEWTON, Alfred Son Single M 8 1883 Scholar Grimsby Lincolnshire
NEWTON, ? Son Single M 6 1885 Scholar Grimsby Lincolnshire
NEWTON, Walter Son Single M 5 1886 Scholar Grimsby Lincolnshire
NEWTON, Ernest Son Single M 0 (11M) 1891 Grimsby Lincolnshire


Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Feb 2012 20:02

Unfortunately it might be this one


Marriages Sep 1898

SMITH Sam - Grantham 7a 967
WELBOURN Eliza - Grantham 7a 967

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Feb 2012 20:07

A William Newton dies Dudley, Staffs MAr Qtr 1894 age 42 and

Ann Eliza Newton marries Dudley, Staffs Jun Qtr 1895 to William Bennett

All between census' - need to have a look where the Newton children are in 1901 and where are the Bennetts

Ivy

Ivy Report 7 Feb 2012 20:08

Edit: following up on the William and Eliza of Rotherham, for 1891:

Name: Eliza Bennett
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Bennett
Gender: Female
Where born: Icklingham, Lincolnshire, England (image shows Folkingham)

Civil parish: Rotherham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens
Town: Rotherham
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Rotherham
Sub-registration district: Rotherham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11

Piece: 3846
Folio: 95
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
William Bennett 25
Eliza Bennett 23
Harry Boulton 12

But this William and Eliza match to an Eliza Barnes:

1871:

Eliza Barnes dau of William/Sarah
b abt 1868 Folkingham, Lincolnshire, England
Living in Folkingham, Lincolnshire

Jan-Feb-Mar 1888 marriage Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding:

Eliza Barnes and William Bennett

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Feb 2012 20:10

This may be the Annie Eliza that married Newton

Births Sep 1868
WELBORN Anne Eliza - Grantham 7a 439

Ivy

Ivy Report 7 Feb 2012 21:23

You mentioned that Mary may have died at her daughter's home in Hessle, so I wondered if there was an Eliza living in Hessle but born in Lincolnshire (to try to track down a spouse); however, it seems more likely that she was living with the elder daughter Annie, fi this marriage and 1901 census match up:

Marriages Jun 1885 Sculcoates 9d 201
HALDENBY Mary Jane
Peart Charles
Revill John Robert
Welbourne Annie


1901:
Name: Annie Peart
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles Peart
Gender: Female
Where born: Binbrook, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Hessle
Ecclesiastical parish: Hessle All Saints
Town: Hessle
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Hessle
ED, institution, or vessel: 2

Household schedule number: 114
Piece: 4474
Folio: 41
Page Number: 19

Name Age
Charles Peart 39
Annie Peart 36
Edith Ellen Peart 15
Elsie Peart 13
John Herbert Peart 10
Madelin Annie Peart 4

and in 1871:

Name: Annie Welbourne
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Welbourne
Mother's name: Mary Welbourne
Gender: Female
Where born: Binbrook, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Habrough
Town: Habrough
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Caistor
Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Household schedule number: 70
Piece: 3417
Folio: 59
Page Number: 14

Name Age
John Welbourne 42
Mary Welbourne 43
George Welbourne 8
Annie Welbourne 6
Eliza Welbourne 4
Charles Welbourne 2

So perhaps Eliza came to stay with Mary and Annie just for a short visit in 1905?

Shirley

Shirley Report 8 Feb 2012 18:04

Hi,
thanks for the work on this folks.
The address Mary Welbourne died was Hawthorne Avenue in Hessle.
Initially I thought she must be with her other daughter Annie Peart who also lived in Hessle. But according to the Census 1901 & 1911 the Annie and Charles Peart live in Tower Hill Terrace, Hessle.
So still all uncertain, unless Eliza was 'shacked up' with a Mr. Bennett and never got round to making it official.
Thanks for all the hard work