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I wouldnt rule out the 1911, Ellen was not likely to have completed the census form and the person who did may well have assumed that she was from north Devon

In fact, everyone listed has an 'actual' place of birth rather than just the county, Ellen may not have been around to tell the person filling the form in, exactly where she was from

Just checked the marriages and deaths for any Ellen Hurrell' in Oz........nothing to match your girl

Oh dear, I thought we had found her but that 1911 entry records a North Devon birth and unfortunately Ugborough and Ivybridge are in South Devon. I'll continue to look.

Mo

That is very likely to be her in the 1911 census and as you say eliminates the Australian emigration. Her sister Alice had in fact moved towards Exeter and married a Policeman in that area in 1908 so that would in fact tie in nicely. Better put my hand n my pocket and order up the death certificate as suggested.

Many thanks to you all for all the help provided.
Mo

Nice one Dea, that looks like her which discounts the trip to Oz

So, it might be worth buying that death certificate that I posted earlier?


Edit: I have looked at that shipping record for Aug 1910 and I cant see an age listed? If the Ellen Hurrell on that ship was 31, then there are a couple of births that would match for her being born in 1879c.............so that could also rule her out as being 'your' girl too

Possible for 1911?? (She was working in a Hotel in 1901 so maybe??)
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GRAY, Ellen Elosia Head Spinster F 50 1861 Managing The Hotel Devonshire Moreton Hampstead
CLARKE, Rose Servant Spinster F 22 1889 Bookkeeper In Hotel Exeter Devon
STAR, Ellen Servant Spinster F 26 1885 Waitress In Hotel Crediton Devon
CROST, Lillian Bland Servant Spinster F 26 1885 Chambermaid In Hotel Exeter Devon
***HURLL, Ellen Servant Spinster F 26 1885 Cook In Hotel North Devon
STAR, Bessie Servant Spinster F 22 1889 Waitress In Hotel Crediton Devon
WEST, Reginald William Servant Married M 22 1889 Borts In Hotel Exeton Devon
MULLINS BOARDER, J Boarder Widower M 51 1860 Priavte Means Ireland Dublin
WHARAM, J R Boarder Boarder Bachelor M 41 1870 Commercial Traveller Visitor Sheffield

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
12670 Reference:
RG14PN12670 RG78PN728 RD271 SD1 ED2 SN5

Registration District:
Exeter Sub District:
Exeter Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Exeter

Address:
7 Sidwell Street Exeter County:
Devonshire


Dea x

Anyone got access to the 1911, I dont think Ancestry have them transcribed yet for teh Devon region?

Thought we might be able to pin her down on the census

Im not convinced that she went to Oz, there are no records showing on Ancestry that point to her, using her mother and fathers names etc

Buddah,

How did you come to the age of 31 only the Find My Past website suggest the travelling Ellen Hurrell was born in 1885 + or - 2 years. it is obviously the same voyage.

Mo

There were no marriages in New South Wales for Ellen Hurrell.

There was another death of Ellen Hurrell, but she was born in N.S.W.

Joy

Have you checked out this death? I cant see a birth or marriage for this lady using the surname as it's spelt on the death below


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
Name: Ellen Horell
Birth Date: abt 1885
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1959
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Christchurch
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 227

Her mother was Selina Hurrell and what looks to be her father, John Brooking although it looks like the parents never married


1891 England Census
about Ellen Brooking
Name: Ellen Brooking
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Brooking
Mother's Name: Selina Brooking
Gender: Female
Where born: Ugborough, Devon, England

Civil parish: Ugborough
Ecclesiastical parish: Ivybridge St John
Town: North Filham
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Registration district: Totnes
Sub-registration district: Ugborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1713
Folio: 65
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
John Brooking 53
Selina Brooking 42
Ellen Brooking 6


Selinas other children are listed as 'step children' to John in 1901

Gins,

Her parentage is a little doubtful which has been part of the problem but her mother was definately Selina Hurrell, born 1848 in Ugborough, Devon. I suspect her father was probably my 2 X great grandfather, John Brooking, born 1837 in Diptford, Devon although I cannot and will not be able to confirm that he was her father for sure.

Her birth was indeed recorded as Ellen Brooking Hurrell in the Mar Q of 1885 in the Totnes dist and she was bap on 7 Oct 1885 at the church of St John Ivybridge with her mother recorded as Selina Hurrell but with no father recorded.

I believe the 1901 has her mis transcribed as Ellen Harvill born in Ivybridge and working for a widowed Catherine Hicks who is the proprieter of the Kings Arms Hotel at 1 Fore Street Ivybridge.

That is the very last sighting of her and I can find nothing on the 1911 census which makes me think that she may be the Ellen on the 1910 passenger list.

Mo

passenger transcript details

Name: Ellen HURRELL
Date of departure: 24 June 1910
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia
Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia

Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status: Single
Sex: Female
Occupation: Domestic
Passenger recorded on: Page 12 of 24



Ship: OTWAY
Official Number: 128282
Master's name: F S Symons
Steamship Line: Orient
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 14988
Registered tonnage: 6689
Passengers on voyage: 730

?????Found this death

Reg No/Yr Surname Names Fathers Name Mothers Name District
22541/1949 Hurrell Ellen James Ellen Manly

Hi Mo

Is this her birth?


Births Mar 1885
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Hurrell Ellen Brooking Totnes 5b 196


Can you post her parents names and the last census that you have her on

I think like the UK Registers, the Australian Electoral Register only provides name, address and occupation.