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Can anyone find him in 1861

Benjamin Thwaites (Thwaits/Thwait ) was born c1839 in London (possibly Islington) to Thomas and Harriet I know where he is in 1841 and 1851 . He married Maria Beaver (Bever) late 1861 Portsea and died in Greenwich in 1866 BUT I can´t find him in 1861.

The only thing I can think of is if he is at sea somewhere.

Thanks for looking

Oh an addition to it all his son Benjamin Thomas b1865 Greenwich named his father as Robert John Thwaites a seaman on his marriage in 1894 !

Have you found his parents without him in 1861?
Thank-you

Patchem No I haven´t as in 1851 Harriet (mum) was as head of house and she died in 1860 Wandsworth.

He did have a younger brother Rubin/ Rueben(b1840) who was at home 1851 who I can´t find either

Marriages Sep 1861 (>99%)
BEVER Maria Portsea 2b 572
Hall Ann Eliza Portsea 2b 572
Hall John Thomas Portsea 2b 572
Thwaites Benjamin Portsea 2b 572

They weren't married at the time of the census Patchem - sorry Patchem wrong generation

Patchem No I haven´t as in 1851 Harriet (mum) was as head of house and she died in 1860 Wandsworth.

He did have a younger brother Rubin/ Rueben(b1840) who was at home 1851 who I can´t find either

Sorry for the delay but I keep getting error when I try to send :-0

Uzzi - you need to delete a few :-)

Ben Jnr in 1871 following his mothers remarriage???

1871:
Name: Benjamin J Paffett
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward Paffett
Mother's Name: Maria Paffett
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich
Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 79
Piece: 1141
Folio: 35
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Paffett 46
Maria Paffett 37
Benjamin J Paffett 5
Ellen J Paffett 1
Ann Begent 30
Harriet A Begent 8


1881:
Name: Benjamine Poffett
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edwd. Poffett
Mother's Name: Maria Poffett
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England
Civil parish: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: 39 York Row
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Blacksmiths (Apprentice)
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1158
Folio: 103
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwd. Poffett 59
Maria Poffett 47
Benjamine Poffett 15
Ellen Poffett 11
George Knight 58

Have you got Reuben in later censuses (just so we know that he is alive in 1861)?
Thanks

added:
Births Mar 1841
Thwaites Reuben Stephen Islington 3 172

relative?:
Births Sep 1890
Thwaites Stephen Reuben Shoreditch 1c 53

No I never found Ruebin again

I would not be distracted by the fact that Benjamin Jnr gave incorrect information about his father in 1894.

Since Benjamin Jnr never knew his father, was raised in the home of his stepfather Edward Paffett and his mother died 8 years before Ben Jnr married it is quite feasible that he would not know or recall his natural fathers forename(s).

Cor that looks better :-D

Jonesy Thanks that is Maria 2nd marriage which I have
Jude Benjamin and Maria weren´t married at the time of the census so he is dotted about single somewhere


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Patcham Rueben is the Islington one

edit to say that I am not bothered about the different fathers name as I know Ben jr is Bens child not Roberts but I did wonder if the seaman bit was correct which is why I am trying to find him in 1861

I did wonder about this one, as the surname is a bit odd, but must say the surname really doesn't look like Thwaite on the image!

1861 England Census

Name: Benjamin Caunt
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Ordinary (Ordinary Seaman)
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Palermo Bay
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England

Registration district: Royal Navy
Sub-registration district: Royal Navy
ED, institution, or vessel: Mars

Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 4439
Folio: 223
Page Number: 13

Jan that´s an interesting one ..I do have Thwaites transcribed a Shwartz but when you look at the census knowing what it is you can see it´s Thwaites.
Will check that one out.

Do you have his marriage cert? Could do with confirming his occupation.
Jan

My Sis in law is sending for it today as we disagree who his parents are.. I was just being rather impatient :-0

A copy of Benjamin Thomas's birth certificate should also give you his fathers occupation:

Births Dec 1865 (>99%)
Thwaites Benjamin Thomas Greenwich 1d 699

Good point Jonesy and I am sure Sis in law has Ben jr birth cert ..will check

Thanks everybody for looking I will have to wait for the marriage cert ..

Got to go out now but I will check back in later

Name: Benjamin Thwaites
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1866
Burial Date: 12 Apr 1866
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Parish or Poor Law Union: Greenwich Hospital, Romney Road, Greenwich
Borough: Greenwich
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

(just adding the above, in case you haven't got it)

Chris :)