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1891 England Census
Charles Horner Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head Gender: Male
Where born: Askern, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: South Otterington Ecclesiastical parish: South Otterington
Town: South Otterington County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Thirsk Sub-registration district: Pickhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Piece: 3981 Folio: 32 Page Number: 2
Charles Horner 47 widower
Jane Horner 19 dau
Charles Horner 4 son
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3981; Folio: 32; Page: 2; GSU roll: 6099091.

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

First name(s): Frederick

Last name: HORNER

Calculated year of birth: 1866

Parish of birth: South Otterington

Town of birth: Thirsk

County of birth: Yorkshire

Age at attestation: 18 years 7 months

Attestation date: 7 February 1884

Attestation corps: 1st Regiment Of Life Guards

Attestation soldier number: 1233

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps:

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO97 / 5158 / 58



married to Rose Harris at Windsor (Berkshire) Reg Office on 5th Sept 1892

Father's name - Charles

1901 England Census
Ada Firth Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Firth
Gender: Female Where born: South Otterington, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Hipperholme Ecclesiastical parish: Lightcliffe St Matthew
County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Brighouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 249
Piece: 4115 Folio: 32 Page Number: 37
Henry Firth 37 stone fettler at quarry
Ada Firth 30
Mary Firth 6
Henar Firth 11 Months (Hector?)
Charles Horner 15 brother bottle washer at brewery
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4115; Folio: 32; Page: 37.

Seems the 1891 marriage is correct!

Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%)
Dearden Amelia Marian Halifax 9a 811 Scan available - click to view
Firth Henry Halifax 9a 811 Scan available - click to view
Horner Ada Halifax 9a 811 Scan available - click to view
Royer Charles Louis Halifax 9a 811 Scan available - click to view

Wow, thank you! It is always satisfying for me to find information out on these boards like this! Can you see this family in 1901?

And Frederick was in the army?! So now more records to try and locate ;)

maybe?

Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%)
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Dearden Amelia Marian Halifax 9a 811
>>>>Firth Henry Halifax 9a 811
>>>>Horner Ada Halifax 9a 811
Royer Charles Louis Halifax 9a 811

1911

FIRTH, Ada Head Married
19 years F 40 1871 Charwoman South Otterington Yorks VIEW
FIRTH, May Daughter Single F 17 1894 Jewellers Assistant Hipperholme Yorks VIEW
FIRTH, Hector Son M 10 1901 School Hipperholme Yorks VIEW
>>>>HORNER, Frederick Visitor Married M 44 1867 Army Pensioner No Occupation South Otterington Yorks VIEW
HORNER, Ethel Visitor Single F 17 1894 Assistant At Photographers London Regents Park VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
26523 Reference:
RG14PN26523 RG78PN1529 RD496 SD6 ED7 SN148

Registration District:
Halifax Sub District:
Halifax North Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Halifax

Address:
61 Woodside Road Halifax County:
Yorkshire (West riding)


could Ada be the sister of Fred?

1911
FIRTH, Ada Head Married 19 years 3 children 2 living F 40 1871 Charwoman South Otterington Yorks
FIRTH, May Daughter Single F 17 1894 Jewellers Assistant Hipperholme Yorks
FIRTH, Hector Son M 10 1901 School Hipperholme Yorks
HORNER, Frederick Visitor Married 18 years 2 children 1 living M 44 1867 Army Pensioner No Occupation South Otterington Yorks
HORNER, Ethel Visitor Single F 17 1894 Assistant At Photographers London Regents Park

RG number: RG14 Piece: 26523 Reference: RG14PN26523 RG78PN1529 RD496 SD6 ED7 SN148

Registration District: Halifax Sub District: Halifax North Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Halifax

Address: 61 Woodside Road Halifax County: Yorkshire (West riding)

Nothing jumps out for Ada ... a possible marriage in Halifax in 1891.

Have you tried for a marriage for Ada on free bmd?

Thanks Patchem ... I have the family in 1871 but the mother sadly dies in 1876. Then Edmund and Fred are living in different households in 1881. (No sign of Ada or their father in 1881/1891 and 1901). But I am not looking for the father.

Could we start with the 1911? See if they are still alive then? Hopefully the boys may have raised their own families by this point.

If you have the parents you must have the children in some of the censuses?
Could you state who you want to find, when?
Thanks

Added:
Just for reference:
1871 England Census
Charles Horner Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Horner
Gender: Male Where born: Aiskew, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: South Otterington Ecclesiastical parish: South Otterington
Town: South Otterington County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Thirsk Sub-registration district: Pickhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 57 piece: 4832 Folio: 43 Page Number: 11
Charles Horner 28
Mary Horner 30
Fred Horner 5
Edmond Horner 3
Ada Horner 9 Months
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4832; Folio: 43; Page: 11; GSU roll: 847367.

So cannot you find any of them after this census?

Hi there,

I have already looked into the parents of this family but now I am specifically looking into the lives of their children:

Fred Horner (born 1865 in South Otterington, N. Yorkshire, England)
Edmund Horner (born 1867, ditto)
Ada Horner (born 1870, ditto)

I have looked into their parents already and have all of their info.

I am looking for these three siblings only in the census and to see when they died.

Thank you, and best wishes,

Peter