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Thomas William Deane Jervis & Elinor McEwen

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David

David Report 25 Apr 2012 12:50

I am seeking confirmation of their birth details and marriage. They were probably born 1840-1850 in Ireland and had children James & Catherine Jervis in 1884 & 1885 in Armagh Ireland.
Thomas was a coachmaker and apparently went to Scotland before leaving for Jersey City USA, where he died in 1892. Another daughter Mary was born in 12/1892 in the USA after his death. They then came to Australia in the late 1890's by ship.
If anyone can assist me in confirming these details or referring me to a source of information, I would be grateful. I would also seek details of the voyage details from USA.

David Henderson :-|

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2012 12:57

Thomas's age at death will tell you roughly when he was born

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2012 13:00

Have you checked the IGI?

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 Apr 2012 13:15

Is this his death?

New York City Deaths, 1892-1902
about Thomas Jervis Name: Thomas Jervis
Birth Date: abt 1851
Age: 41
Death Date: 16 Jul 1892
Death Place: New York, New York
Certificate Number: 25667


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Apr 2012 13:15

???

Name: Thomas Jervis
Registration District: Armagh
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1882
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101254
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 35
Digital Folder Number: 4179387
Image Number: 00247


and on the same page

Name: Ellen M'Keown
Registration District: Armagh
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1882
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101254
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 35
Digital Folder Number: 4179387
Image Number: 00254

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Apr 2012 15:01

One of these for James?

Name: James Jervis
Registration District: Armagh
Event Type: BIRTHS
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1883
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101059
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 37
Digital Folder Number: 4193460
Image Number: 00147


OR

Name: James Jervis
Registration District: Armagh
Event Type: BIRTHS
Registration Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1885
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101060
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 28
Digital Folder Number: 4193461
Image Number: 00585


Name: Catherine Jervis
Registration District: Armagh
Event Type: BIRTHS
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1885
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101060
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 28
Digital Folder Number: 4193461
Image Number: 00498



Have you considered that these births may also relate to the same family?

Name: Ellen Jervis
Registration District: Armagh
Event Type: BIRTHS
Registration Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1884
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101060
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 27
Digital Folder Number: 4193461
Image Number: 00223


Name: George Jervis
Registration District: Armagh
Event Type: BIRTHS
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1887
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101061
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 34
Digital Folder Number: 4193975
Image Number: 00478


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Apr 2012 15:26

David, do you have any comments on the information posted please?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2012 15:52

David

Would you please delete the other THREE threads you have posted about this family

If you'd read the site guidelines, you'd be aware of the 'one post per topic' stipulation

rootgatherer

He's in OZ......so probably gone to bed

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Apr 2012 16:01

Yes Reggie, I realise he is in Australia but he was busy posting some of the duplicate threads an hour after I posted that marriage for Thomas Jervis and Ellen McKeown!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Apr 2012 09:12

Well, he's been back to one of his threads, but doesn't seem to plan on conforming to the guidelines about multiple posting

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 26 Apr 2012 10:28

It would also be useful to know roughly WHERE in Australia they settled, if he wants immigration details - is's a big place!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Apr 2012 12:00

David it is best to reply on the thread. That way all the helpers can see what is going on. I hope you don't mind me pasting the info of your PM here as I think it may be useful to the other helpers.

"James and Catherine were the children of Thomas & Ellen?(Elinor) Sibree. I understand that James was born on 1884 & Catherine in 1885 in Armagh Ireland. Catherine appears to be correct, while James could be correctly born in 1883. Catherine was my grandmother. Still seeking details of immigration to USA where younger sister Mary was born 21/12/1892.Thanks for your research."

From the above it looks like Ellen / Elinor may have remarried. Did that happen in the USA or Australia please David?

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 27 Apr 2012 01:11

And what was her 2nd husband's name? (or surname at least!)

Sad_Mushroom

Sad_Mushroom Report 27 Apr 2012 03:12

They appear to end up in NSW and James marries in 1912....so sometime between 1892 and 1912 arrival (if all info provided is correcct)

Problem is UNassisted Immigration from the USA during that period could be a bother to find...ESPECIALLY if Elinor remarried in the US as they could all travelled under new husbands surname...

Kellie

David

David Report 3 May 2012 03:02

Thanks for your assistance everyone. After Thomas Jervis died and Mary Jervis was born in New York in 1892, Ellen and the children migrated to Australia to live with relatives in Sydney New South Wales. Catherine was married in Sydney in 1912. Ellen did not remarry to my knowledge but her name appears on the marriage certificate as Elinor McEwen. Seeking suggestions of research into immigration records USA to Australia after 1892 & immigration records UK to USA after 1885 . No further enquiries.

David Henderson