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I think you need to bear in mind that Charles was using an alias

Roy

Can't understand if this is my Charlie why when his father Thomas lived in Frensham on all the census records his nok (his father) lived in Dunn or Downing Street Farnham. Thomas never appeared to live anywhere other than Frensham.

Another mystery.

From his army record it looks like he would probably be in prison at the time of the 1891 census, so you may not find him under his full name or alias, some prisons and other institutions just entered inmates with initials only so can be very hard to find, you could also check for court records on ancestry

Roy

Thank you all for your time.

I'll have to do some more research but this does look as though this is our Charlie.
If you type in Charlie Trusler - Farnham in 'search' there do only appear to be two.
My grandfather and great grandfather.

I'm not sure Mum will believe it - didn't know any of the family had been in prison, and an alias what was that all about.

1911 info
Charlie Trusler was my grandfather born 1894
married Elizabeth Slingo

He was the son of Charlie Trusler born 1869

At attestation - age 18, 5ft 41/4 in, 123 lbs, Chest 33 in,Fresh complexion, eyes and hair brown, CofE. Scar left buttock<<<<<<<. Labourer
NOK as above
Absent without leave 11 May 1887

Next image for James Smith joined Royal West Kents at Maidenhead 25 May 1887. Age 18 years 5 months, born Farnham. Labourer. Army No. 1908.
Written in red on this image - ALIAS Charlie Trusler.
18 years 5 months, 5ft 41/4 in, 126 lbs, Fresh complexion, eyes hazel, hair brown Cof E. Scar Left buttock<<<<<

Next image - West Kents, Charlie Trusler No 1908
14 Feb 1889 - Confined and convicted Drunk and Disorderly by civil power. released after 3 days
18 Oct 1890 - awaiting trial, convicted by civil power of Drunk and disorderly and assaulting civil police. Fined £1 7s 6d. paid and returned to duty
20 Jan 1891 - Awaiting trial, convicted and imprisoned by civil power for 3 months. Discharged service due to this, forfeiting all service towards pension and good conduct

Next image - goes backwards, again James Smith alias Charlie Trusler
5 June 1887 - tried and imprisoned for fraud, released 21 June
Service all at home ie UK from 25.5.1887 - 9 Feb 1891
NOK - Father - Tom 8 Dunn (? Down) Street, FArnham

So looks as though he was in prison for the 1891 census if this is your man.

Mum didn't seem to think Charlie joined the army or any of the forces - but perhaps she was wrong.

It could only have been for a short time as he was married in 1892 and showed on the census after this as a navvy.

On the 1891 census his parents Thomas and Mary were living with his two brothers Robert and James
Elizabeth had married
Thomas William and Tom had all died
Emma was a servant in Guildford
I haven't yet found out where Cornelious is.

heather, Your input is required

Roy

Have you the 1911 info




Name Relation Condition /
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
TRUSLER, Charlie Head Married M 43 1868 Labourer General Frensham Vale VIEW
TRUSLER, Elizabeth Wife Married19 years F 39 1872 Surrey Upper Hale VIEW
TRUSLER, Charlie Son Single M 17 1894 Labourer General Surrey Upper Hale VIEW
TRUSLER, Elizabeth Ellen Daughter Single F 15 1896 General Servant Domestic Surrey Upper Hale VIEW
TRUSLER, Robert Victor Son M 13 1898 Surrey Upper Hale VIEW
TRUSLER, Annie Edith Daughter F 11 1900 Surrey Upper Hale VIEW
TRUSLER, Emily Alice Mary Daughter F 7 1904 Surrey Upper Hale VIEW
TRUSLER, Lilian Maud Daughter F 5 1906 Surrey Upper Hale VIEW
TRUSLER, Herbert George Son M 1 1910 Surrey

Upper Hale VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 3132 Reference: RG14PN3132 RG78PN114 RD34 SD3 ED9 SN215 Registration District: Farnham Sub District: Farnham Enumeration District: 9 Parish: Farnham Rural Address: Upper Hale Farnham County: Surrey redefine current search census search results 1911 address search

MARRIED 19 years 9 children 7 living

1881 For info?

Name: Charles Trusler
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Trusler
Mother's Name: Mary Trusler
Gender: Male
Where born: Frensham, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Frensham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: Frensham Vale
Education:

Employment status:
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Farnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 789
Folio: 75
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Trusler 53
Mary Trusler 53
Robert Trusler 17
James Trusler 13
Charles Trusler 12
Emma S. Trusler 7
Mary Trusler 81
John Gillott 21

Roy

Is this him - NOK Father
Thomas Trusler, Joys Cottage, Frensham Near FArnham, Surrey

Need to take a better look at records - seems he may have "rejoined" as James Smith!

Just looked at Stuart's post with possible army service records

If he was a serving soldier in 1891 he could still be listed in the census,

try searching with minimul info such as just name and birth year +/- 5 years and so on

On ancestry you can search for soldiers, in the drop down box for relationship to head

also instead of entering the name Charles enter it as Chas

Roy

Did you find the rest of the family in 1891?

have you tried looking for him in records that are mistranscribed?

Roy

?? British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

First name(s): Charles
Last name: TRUSLER
Calculated year of birth: 1869
Parish of birth: Frensham
Town of birth: Farnham
County of birth: Surrey
Age at attestation: 18 years
Attestation date: 12 March 1887
Attestation corps: Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment)
Attestation soldier number: 1866
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps:
Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO97 / 4048 / 77

There are 15 images available - will have a look for you

Charlie Trusler was my great grandfather.
He was born in 1869 in Frensham Nr. Farnham Surrey.
Died 1914

On the 1871 census he was living with his parents Thomas and Mary in Frensham
On the 1881 census living with parents - down as Charles living in Frensham
On the 1891 census he seems to have disappeared
On the 1901 census he was married to Elizabeth - living in Farnham with 4 children.

Does any-one know where he was in 1891.

Heather