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elizabeth jamieson

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Andrew729

Andrew729 Report 25 Jun 2012 09:05

hello,

fairly new at this. looking to find birth date & place for elizabeth jamieson.
what I believe:
elizabeth married william wylie on december 31, 1842 in carluke, lanarkshire, scotland.
elizabeth and william had a daughter, Jane, who was born on october 31, 1876 at 11:55pm at 104 stewart street, wishaw, lanarkshire, scotland.
jane married john hamilton on june 14, 1905 in cambusnethan, lanarkshire, scotland.
to repeat, this is what I believe but I am a beginner so, to quote the gershwin boys - "it ain't necessarily so".

thanks,
andrew

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jun 2012 09:10

this looks to be the family:-

1881 Scotland Censusabout Jane Wylie
Name: Jane Wylie
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: William Wylie
Mother's name: Elizabeth J Wylie
Gender: Female
Where born: Wishaw, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 628
Registration district: Cambusnethan
Civil parish: Cambusnethan
Town: Wishaw
County: Lanarkshire
xxxx Address: 49 Stewarton Street xxxx
ED: 13
Household schedule number: 183
Line: 23
Roll: cssct1881_207
Household Members: Name Age
William Wylie 28 - born: Dalry, Ayrshire
Elizabeth J Wylie 32 - born: Carluke, Lanarkshire (d.of b.= abt.1849)
Thomas Wylie 7
Jane Wylie 4
Agnes Wylie 2
William Smith 26
Samuel Stocks 27


Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jun 2012 09:13

1891 Scotland Censusabout Jane Wylie
Name: Jane Wylie
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: William Wylie
Mother's name: Elizabeth Wylie
Gender: Female
Where born: Wishaw, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 628
Registration district: Cambusnethan
Civil parish: Cambusnethan
Town: Wishaw
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 3 Steeles Land
ED: 15
Household schedule number: 70
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1891_230
Household Members: Name Age
William Wylie 38
Elizabeth Wylie 41 - born: Carluke, Lanarkshire
Thomas Wylie 18
Jane Wylie 14
Agnes Wylie 12
William Wylie 9
Lizzie Wylie 6
Maggie Wylie 1
John Brown 12
Charles Markey 18


Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jun 2012 09:17

1901 Scotland Censusabout William Wylie
Name: William Wylie
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Elizabeth Wylie
Gender: Male
Where born: Dalry, Ayrshire
Registration number: 628
Registration district: Cambusnethan
Civil parish: Cambusnethan
Town: Wishaw
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 25 Caledonian Rd
Occupation: Pit Sinker
ED: 15
Household schedule number: 9
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1901_255
Household Members: Name Age
William Wylie 48
Elizabeth Wylie 52
Jeanie Wylie 23
William Wylie 18
Elizabeth Wylie 16
Maggie Wylie 11


Andrew729

Andrew729 Report 25 Jun 2012 09:19

catherine,
looks right to me/
thank you so much. you are pretty speedy!
now why couldn't I do that?

Andrew

:-)

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jun 2012 09:27

Don't worry Andrew I've been doing this family tree lark for several years now. I wasn't always so quick and I did find when I started that it is better to walk before you run. You have already learned one of the most important leasons, that is to always check your info fully and never take things on face value. You will need to buy a couple of certificates along the way to validate your findings, that's when it begins to get expensive, but absolutely necessary if you want your tree to be 100% correct.
For example, if you want to find the parents of Elizabeth, then you will need her marriage certificate to find out her father's name and occupation which will help confirm any earlier census records. :-)

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jun 2012 09:34

Andrew, I have just noticed something from your posting :-

elizabeth married william wylie on december 31, 1842 in carluke, lanarkshire, scotland

If they married in 1842 then this could not be your family as the couple weren't even born in 1842?
From 1881 census, they had their first child in 1873 so do you mean 1872?

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jun 2012 09:43

For info:-

Name:Thomas Wiley
Gender:Male
Birth Date:23 Jul 1873
Birthplace:CARLUKE,LANARK,SCOTLAND

Father's Name:William Wiley
Mother's Name:Elizabeth Jameson

Indexing Project (Batch) Number:C11629-1
System Origin:Scotland-ODM
Source Film Number:6035516

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jun 2012 09:45

Name:William Wylie
Gender:Male
Birth Date:26 Apr 1881
Birthplace:Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland

Father's Name:William Wylie
Mother's Name:Betsy Jamieson

Indexing Project (Batch) Number:C01900-1
System Origin:Scotland-EASy
Source Film Number:232668

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jun 2012 09:55

For Scottish BMD you need the web site (scotlandspeople.gov.uk)
After a quick search, I have found a marriage between a William Wylie and and Elizabeth Jamieson in 1873, Carluke, Lanarkshire, but, you have to pay to view so I can't look at the results as I don't have any credits.
Scottish records usually give you much more information than English ones so they are well worth investing in. You may very well find that the couples father and mother's names will be on the record which is a great help.

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jun 2012 10:11

there are several possible entries in the census records for Elizabeth, but this one is Carluke:-

1861 Scotland Censusabout Betsy Jamieson
Name: Betsy Jamieson
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Andrew Jamieson
Mother's name: Jane Jamieson
Gender: Female
Where born: Carluke, Lanark
Registration number: 629
Registration district: Carluke
Civil parish: Carluke
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Clyde Street
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1861_93
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Jamieson 47 - born: Carluke, Lanark (Occupation: Carter)
Jane Jamieson 45 - born: Lesmahagow, Lanark
Jane Jamieson 20
James Jamieson 15
Betsy Jamieson 15
Andrew Jamieson 11
Alexander Jamieson 8
Margaret Jamieson 5

...............you could put this on file untill you have the marriage cert. which should confirm, or not, father's name and occupation.

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jun 2012 10:14

Same family in 1851 and date of birth is now 1848:-

1851 Scotland Censusabout Betsy Jamieson
Name: Betsy Jamieson
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Andrew Jamieson
Mother's name: Jane Jamieson
Gender: Female
Where born: Carluke, Lanark
Parish Number: 629
Civil parish: Carluke
Town: Carluke
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Clyde Street
ED: 3
Page: 18 (click to see others on page)

Household schedule number: 68
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1851_150
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Jamieson 36 - Occupation: Carter
Jane Jamieson 34 - born: Stonehouse, Lanark
Jane Jamieson 9
James Jamieson 5
Betsy Jamieson 3
Andrew Jamieson 1
Jane Thomson 14
....................................

1881 Scotland Censusabout Jane Jamieson
Name: Jane Jamieson
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Lesmahagow, Lanarksh
Registration number: 629
Registration district: Carluke
Civil parish: Carluke
Town: Carluke
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Stewart St.
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 82
Line: 10
Roll: cssct1881_208
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Jamieson 66
Andrew Jamieson 27

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jun 2012 10:24

1871 Scotland Censusabout Andrew Jamieson
Name: Andrew Jamieson
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jane H Jamieson
Gender: Male
Where born: Carluke, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 629
Registration district: Carluke
Civil parish: Carluke
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Heigh House Row
ED: 1A
Household schedule number: 357
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1871_120
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Jamieson 52
Jane H Jamieson 50 - born: Pathhead, Lanarkshire
Andrew Jamieson 19
Alexander Jamieson 17
..................................................

1881 Scotland Censusabout Jane Jamieson
Name: Jane Jamieson
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Lesmahagow, Lanarksh
Registration number: 629
Registration district: Carluke
Civil parish: Carluke
Town: Carluke
County: Lanarkshire
xxxx Address: Stewart St. xxxx
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 82
Line: 10
Roll: cssct1881_208
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Jamieson 66
Andrew Jamieson 27

(Note:- Now living Stewart St.)
.......................................

Andrew729

Andrew729 Report 25 Jun 2012 10:27

Catherine,
back to the future!
you are right. I have credits on scotland's people and william and elizabeth were married on dec 31, 1872.
I guess the assistant registrar, one thomas steele, has a peculiar way of writing the # 7.
if you're interested william's parents were thomas wylie, ironstone miner, and agnes wylie - ms rogers.
elizabeth, also known as betsy, her parents were andrew jamieson, a potato merchant, and elizabeth jamieson - ms orr.

thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow.

andrew

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jun 2012 10:32

this looks to be the baptism for the above Betsey:-

Name: Betsy Jamieson
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 11 Jan 1847
Birthplace: , CARLUKE, LANARK, SCOTLAND

Father's Name: Andrew Jamieson

Mother's Name: Jean Fairservice

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11629-4

System Origin: Scotland-ODM
Source Film Number: 1042969

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jun 2012 10:34

Oh!
Just read your posting Andrew.
So the family I found can't be her if her mother was Elizabeth?
Never mind :-(