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If you come across a Clara Emma Martha Cottrell (same name minus the 'e') daughter of Samuel, she belongs to my family so feel free to make contact. And they were same sort of area. J

Son's birth, but I don't think is the George you are thinking of:

Births Dec 1911
Cotterell George W Dudley Birmingham 6d 141

Another son?

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
COTTERILL Ernest Dudley Birmingham 6d 449

Rose

thank you, things are starting to fit together now :-D

The births for the children seem to be registered both as Cotterill and Taylor. So, if they married, it must have been after the 1928 birth.

Name: George W Cotterill
Birth Date: abt 1885
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1958
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 285

Second "wife" went on to marry in 1924

Marriages Jun 1924 Workman Elizabeth J Knapp Cirencester 6a 915

The daughter Minnie from his marriage to Miss Workman married using the surname Workman.

wonder if she had been married before

Civil registration event: Marriage

MarriageFinder™: George Cotterill married Elizabeth White

Name: COTTERILL, George
Registration district: [?] Birmingham North
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1927
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name White
Volume no: [?] 6D
Page no: [?] 830

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Name: WHITE, Elizabeth
Registration district: Birmingham North
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1927
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Cotterill
Volume no: 6D
Page no: 830

Name: COTTERILL, Horace S
Registration district: [?] Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1922

Name: COTTERILL, Ivy S
Registration district: [?] Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1924

Name: COTTERILL, Ernest
Registration district: [?] Birmingham North
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1927


Name: COTTERILL, Amy A
Registration district: [?] Birmingham North
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1928

not seeing George's birth at the moment

1911

Name: Florence May Cotterill
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birmingham
Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Bk 40 Pope St Bham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Stamp Worker
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration District Number: 384
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 18063
Household Members: Name Age
George William Cotterill 25 Rag and Bone Gatherer, b. Birmingham
Florence May Cotterill 22 Married 4 years, 2 children born, 2 living
Alfred Henry Cotterill 3
Rose Cotterill 2

1911

Name: Jane Workman
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: North Cerney, Gloucestershire
Civil parish: Syde and Winstone
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Winstone, Nr Cirencester
Registration district: Cirencester
Registration District Number: 329
Sub-registration district: Cotswold
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 15431
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Richard Workman 50
Minnie Workman 40
Arthur Workman 19
Richard Workman 16
John Workman 14
Rose Workman 11
Jane Workman 9
Edith Workman 7
George Workman 5
Fredrick Workman 4
Alfred Workman 2

George's WW1 records are available.

Name: George William Cotterill
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Age at enlistment: 31
Residence: 2/95 Garbett Street, Ladywood Bessingham
Document Year: 1916
Regimental Number: 22564
Regiment Name: Dorset Regiment
Number of images: 32


In those records his next of kin is Mary, his mother. Looks like he was already married and seperated from his wife, Florence and had a son George William born 3 December 1911.

Perhaps he and your Grandmother married later than you thought?


His first marriage

Marriages Jun 1908
BAILEY William Charles Birmingham 6d 288
Cotterill George William Birmingham 6d 288 <<<<<<<<<<
DUDLEY Florence May Birmingham 6d 288 <<<<<<<<<<
HIGHAM Sarah May Birmingham 6d 288



The address he gives on demob is c/o Mrs. Workman, Gloucester Road, Cirencester.

So perhaps this is his second marriage.

Marriages Sep 1919
Cotterill George W Workman Cirencester 6a 1143
Workman Elizabeth J Cotterill Cirencester 6a 1143


Births Dec 1919 Cotterill Minnie E J Workman Cirencester 6a 747



EDIT

On further reading it states "Mrs. Workman stated above appears to be a relative to the Elizabeth Jane Workman that he married on 18th August 1919."

The Army are asking for the second marriage to be investigated.

There is a copy of his marriage certificate to Elizabeth Jane Workman (spinster aged 18 years) but her father's name is also Workman......so not seeing the Taylor connection.

George William Cotterill
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Birmingham,? Warwickshire
census: 1911 Birmingham,? B Ham,? Warwickshire,? England


name: George William Cotterill
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 25
birthplace: Birmingham, Warwickshire
record type: Household
registration district: Birmingham
sub-district: St George
parish: Birmingham
county: Warwickshire

Did you mean 1885 and 1886 please?

Any approximate year of birth for some of the children?

looking for a marriage between my grandparents from ladywood in Birmingham.george william cotterill and elizabeth taylor . he was born in 1985, she was born in 1986 had 5 children, horace,ernest,amy,george,and my mother Ivy. any info would be great maggy :-D