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looking for cotterill family

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JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 6 Jul 2012 22:03

If you come across a Clara Emma Martha Cottrell (same name minus the 'e') daughter of Samuel, she belongs to my family so feel free to make contact. And they were same sort of area. J

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Jul 2012 21:52

Son's birth, but I don't think is the George you are thinking of:

Births Dec 1911
Cotterell George W Dudley Birmingham 6d 141

Another son?

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
COTTERILL Ernest Dudley Birmingham 6d 449

Rose

Margaret

Margaret Report 3 Jul 2012 21:40

thank you, things are starting to fit together now :-D

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Jul 2012 22:14

The births for the children seem to be registered both as Cotterill and Taylor. So, if they married, it must have been after the 1928 birth.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Jul 2012 22:03

Name: George W Cotterill
Birth Date: abt 1885
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1958
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 285

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Jul 2012 22:00

Second "wife" went on to marry in 1924

Marriages Jun 1924 Workman Elizabeth J Knapp Cirencester 6a 915

The daughter Minnie from his marriage to Miss Workman married using the surname Workman.

tempest

tempest Report 1 Jul 2012 21:48

wonder if she had been married before

Civil registration event: Marriage

MarriageFinderâ„¢: George Cotterill married Elizabeth White

Name: COTTERILL, George
Registration district: [?] Birmingham North
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1927
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name White
Volume no: [?] 6D
Page no: [?] 830

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Name: WHITE, Elizabeth
Registration district: Birmingham North
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1927
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Cotterill
Volume no: 6D
Page no: 830

tempest

tempest Report 1 Jul 2012 21:44

Name: COTTERILL, Horace S
Registration district: [?] Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1922

Name: COTTERILL, Ivy S
Registration district: [?] Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1924

Name: COTTERILL, Ernest
Registration district: [?] Birmingham North
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1927


Name: COTTERILL, Amy A
Registration district: [?] Birmingham North
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1928

not seeing George's birth at the moment


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Jul 2012 21:43

1911

Name: Florence May Cotterill
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birmingham
Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Bk 40 Pope St Bham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Stamp Worker
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration District Number: 384
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 18063
Household Members: Name Age
George William Cotterill 25 Rag and Bone Gatherer, b. Birmingham
Florence May Cotterill 22 Married 4 years, 2 children born, 2 living
Alfred Henry Cotterill 3
Rose Cotterill 2

1911

Name: Jane Workman
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: North Cerney, Gloucestershire
Civil parish: Syde and Winstone
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Winstone, Nr Cirencester
Registration district: Cirencester
Registration District Number: 329
Sub-registration district: Cotswold
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 15431
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Richard Workman 50
Minnie Workman 40
Arthur Workman 19
Richard Workman 16
John Workman 14
Rose Workman 11
Jane Workman 9
Edith Workman 7
George Workman 5
Fredrick Workman 4
Alfred Workman 2

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Jul 2012 21:15

George's WW1 records are available.

Name: George William Cotterill
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Age at enlistment: 31
Residence: 2/95 Garbett Street, Ladywood Bessingham
Document Year: 1916
Regimental Number: 22564
Regiment Name: Dorset Regiment
Number of images: 32


In those records his next of kin is Mary, his mother. Looks like he was already married and seperated from his wife, Florence and had a son George William born 3 December 1911.

Perhaps he and your Grandmother married later than you thought?


His first marriage

Marriages Jun 1908
BAILEY William Charles Birmingham 6d 288
Cotterill George William Birmingham 6d 288 <<<<<<<<<<
DUDLEY Florence May Birmingham 6d 288 <<<<<<<<<<
HIGHAM Sarah May Birmingham 6d 288



The address he gives on demob is c/o Mrs. Workman, Gloucester Road, Cirencester.

So perhaps this is his second marriage.

Marriages Sep 1919
Cotterill George W Workman Cirencester 6a 1143
Workman Elizabeth J Cotterill Cirencester 6a 1143


Births Dec 1919 Cotterill Minnie E J Workman Cirencester 6a 747



EDIT

On further reading it states "Mrs. Workman stated above appears to be a relative to the Elizabeth Jane Workman that he married on 18th August 1919."

The Army are asking for the second marriage to be investigated.

There is a copy of his marriage certificate to Elizabeth Jane Workman (spinster aged 18 years) but her father's name is also Workman......so not seeing the Taylor connection.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 1 Jul 2012 21:07

George William Cotterill
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Birmingham,? Warwickshire
census: 1911 Birmingham,? B Ham,? Warwickshire,? England


name: George William Cotterill
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 25
birthplace: Birmingham, Warwickshire
record type: Household
registration district: Birmingham
sub-district: St George
parish: Birmingham
county: Warwickshire

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Jul 2012 20:40

Did you mean 1885 and 1886 please?

Any approximate year of birth for some of the children?

Margaret

Margaret Report 1 Jul 2012 20:32

looking for a marriage between my grandparents from ladywood in Birmingham.george william cotterill and elizabeth taylor . he was born in 1985, she was born in 1986 had 5 children, horace,ernest,amy,george,and my mother Ivy. any info would be great maggy :-D