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1901 censes for cork city cathedral district north
says william was 44 yrs if this is right he would have been born in 1857
he was married to margret healy
william was a blacksmith then later on
he was a landlord of a public house in cork city
there oldest daughter on the 1901 censes was margret born in 1884
they had 14 children all born in the cathedral district cork city
looking for birth marrige & death, on william please
he never left cork ireland

I can't spot it but you could have a look here

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/index.html

what was the daughter's name?

Margert, born 1884 she was 17 on 1901 censes
but they had 14 children in all
with 12 living on 1911 cences

Adriene
Is it the family at: 19 Old Market Place, Cork Urban No4?

Did you locate them again in 1911?
It looks as if they may have married in Cork 1885 (3rd Quater) and Margaret's name may have been entered under HALY

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
about William Sullivan
Name: William Sullivan
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1885
Registration district: Cork
Volume: 5
Page: 86 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101255

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
about Margaret Haly
Name: Margaret Haly
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1885
Registration district: Cork
Volume: 5
Page: 86 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101255

Adriene
Just a thought...
on the 1901 return, William stated he was 44yrs and his wife Margaret was 35 yrs.
Many men deliberately lied about their age in hope that they could qualify for a pension.
None of my Irish ancestors aged 10 yrs between census returns and some were younger at time of death than they were on their last census!
It is possible that William could be anything up to 10yrs younger that he said.

Hi Anne
yes this is the family at old market place
then on 1911 ceses at 15 farranferris st marys cork city ,but william has different ages on each censes ,
is there anywere i can find him on an earlier censes ,
yes Healy ,could i suppose have been spelt wrong
as some of the children are O'sullivan & Sullivan
O'sullivan is the right name .

Hi Adriene,
Only the 1901 and 1911 Irish censuses exist complete. All others were largely destroyed by fire in 1922.
Where did you find this family in 1911?
In 1911 the house at 52 Commons Road was occupied by a family called Hill?

Hi Anne
found family on 1911 censes at 15 Farranferris st marys , cork city ,
williams age listed as 59 william he was a blacksmith
my granfather was john aged 21
there are more children listed on this census
poor Margret all those pregnancys .

Anne
the address 52 commons rd cork the cathedral district was given by william & margret who attended there son,John,s
marrige
for the church record
of john & Honora Hartnett in 1914 at st finbars south RC church cork were my granparents married
this was my granmother Honora,s
parish

I am not sure how you would be able to get further info on this family.
The two census returns have conflicting info.
William has aged 14yrs between returns and Margaret says she has been married 23yrs, had 14 children total, and 12 still living..

Between returns there are indeed 14 children
Margaret, William and Charlotte are missing from 1911 which means that two of these died and one was living
However, daughter Margaret was aged 17 (scholar) in 1901 and therefore should be aged 27yrs at 1911,.
This does not equate with her mother being married for 23yrs?

Anne


Anne

Ive been searching on this since 2005 ,
even i cant find a birth record or baptisium date for my granfather john
its such a shame when ,i cant seem to get any further back
i did manage to write to one of the churchs in there area & they sent me 2 baptisium certificates of two of the children
my late fatherborn 1918 allways talked about william became the owner of a public house called the little man ,were my father & his brother used to run to when they were small
,so maybe your right that william was younger that the age he said
im also trying to find out the names of Williams parents

Adriene...
It would probably be easier (tongue in cheek..) to have nudged your previous thread..threads up ...even I am confused now..."The little man" is obviously hiding !!! But dont give up hope...we will find them somehow...5 years isnt that long to search...my g.grandfather O'Brien has eluded me for 9 years...but then thats what Corkmen are good at..!
I will alert Liam for when he is next going into Cork City..see if he can find anything...!!!

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Eringobragh 1916

thank you for all your help , sorry but im not very good at this not sure what to do on this site i keep making mistakes
as my g,granfather william has two different ages on each census & i cant find his birth record or marrige record
also im told that they cant find any birth record of my granfather John his son
i seem to be going around in circles but i wont give up
thanks again

Hi' Adriene / Erin,
Erin, you can take it you' ve alerted me, [ha ha ]

I've checked out the 1945 guys postal directory for Evergreen Road [ Adriane mentioned this road in her earlier/ another post ] theres only one public house here in 1945 ,the owner is a Mrs O'Riodan, living at no 12.
I'll check out the church at Turners Cross, this was built in the late 1920s/30 finished in 1931, so they may hold some records, if not then, the records for this area will be in St Finbarrs [ these are both south of the river , whereas the cathedral is north of the river, therefore different parish ]
If need be then I'll go to the City next week and have a poke around and see what I can find.
its just a thought, but the Commons Road, leads on towards Killens/Blarney/ Whitechurch,they may have had some connection there.

Liam

Liam...
First verse of "A Soldiers Song" comes to mind..!!

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