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I am trying to trace my great great grand father. On the wedding cert of my great grand parents, Charles Bolter and Eliza Munday 1869, Charles father is stated as Isaac Bolter. No mention that he was deasesed, The only Isaac Bolter I can find in records within the dates was married to Elizabeth Weeks and they did not have a son Charles. Charles mother was Martha Bolter . In the 1841 census she is living with her father in Tilshead, wiltshire. She had 2 children Charles and Jane. But no mention of a husband/father. Any help would be great.
Kind regards
Rosamond

When and where does Charles give as for his birth on census records ?

Just for info

Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
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Blake Jane Amesbury 5a 351
Bolter Charles Amesbury 5a 351
HIBBERD Elias Amesbury 5a 351
Munday Eliza Ann Amesbury 5a 351



What is the occupation of his father?
Witnesses?

1871 is this the correct family ?
Name: Charles Bolter
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Ann Bolter
Gender: Male
Where born: Chivred, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Tilshead
Ecclesiastical parish: Tilshead
Town: Tilshead
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration district: Amesbury
Sub-registration district: Orcheston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 29
Piece: 1943
Folio: 19
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Bolter 25
Eliza Ann Bolter 24
Edith Bolter 9 Months

Class: RG10; Piece: 1943; Folio: 19; Page: 5; GSU roll: 830878.


1881 gives place of birth as Little Cheverel, Wiltshire

1851 no marital status given for Martha

Name: Martha Botter
[Martha Bolter]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Sister
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Little Cheverell, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Little Cheverell
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Devizes
Sub-registration district: Bishops Cannings
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 1839
Folio: 345
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Maria Beaven 46
William Beaven 21
Isaac Beaven 19
Richard Beaven 15
Martha Botter 36
Jane Botter 12
Charles Botter 7

This looks like him, living next door to the Munday family:

1871 England Census
about Charles Bolter Name: Charles Bolter
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Ann Bolter
Gender: Male
Where born: Chivred, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Tilshead
Ecclesiastical parish: Tilshead
Town: Tilshead
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration district: Amesbury
Sub-registration district: Orcheston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 29
Piece: 1943
Folio: 19
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Bolter 25
Eliza Ann Bolter 24
Edith Bolter 9 Months

Martha listed as unmarried:

1861 England Census
about Charles Boltor Name: Charles Boltor
[Charles Bolter]
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Martha Boltor
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheverell Parva, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Cheverell Parva
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Devizes
Sub-registration district: Lavington
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Piece: 1291
Folio: 33
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Martha Boltor 44
Jane Boltor 23
Charles Boltor 16

As you say she was living with her father in 1841 so it would indicate she was not married, otherwise her name would not be Bolter

That 1841 census has some interesting People on it .

Martha Willis abt 1837 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire
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Sarah Balter abt 1781 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire <<<bolter also
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John Munday abt 1791 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire
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Sarah Munday abt 1791 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire
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Henry Munday abt 1821 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire
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Charlotte Munday abt 1826 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire
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Thomas Bolter abt 1781 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire
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Martha Bolter abt 1821 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire
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Jane Bolter abt 1839 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire
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Samuel Munday abt 1746 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire
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John Bailey abt 1821 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire
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Jane Ashley abt 1816 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire

His possable birth which would name his parents or just mother

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Charles Bolter
Name: Charles Bolter
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1843
Registration district: Devizes
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 8
Page: 315 (click to see others on page)

his death
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Charles Bolter
Name: Charles Bolter
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1911
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Amesbury
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 101 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Isaac Bolter
Probate Date: 30 Jun 1866
Death Date: 16 Nov 1865
Death Place: Wiltshire, England
Registry: Salisbury


Isaac Bolter, brickmaker of Little Cheverel, proved by oath of Abrham Bolter, brickmaker, son and sole executor

Effects under £1000


But it looks like this is the Isaac married to Elizabeth :-(


1851 England Census
Name: Isaac Bolter
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Bolter
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Lt Cheverell, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Little Cheverell
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Devizes
Sub-registration district: Bishops Cannings
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 53
Piece: 1839
Folio: 350
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac Bolter 48
Elizabeth Bolter 50
Lavinea Bolter 22
Elizabeth Bolter 18
Abraham Bolter 16
Sophia Bolter 14
Jonah Bolter 11


As Jax says, you need the birth certificate for Charles


Just to add. How do you know Martha was living with her father in 1841? That census does not state relationships, Thomas could have been any family member

2nd christening matches the Martha in 1851 census:-

Name: Martha Boulter
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 20 Feb 1814
Baptism/Christening Place: LITTLE CHEVERELL,WILTSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Boulter
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05462-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1279344
Reference Number:



Name: Martha Boulter
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Feb 1816
Baptism/Christening Place: LITTLE CHEVERELL,WILTSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Boulter
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05462-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1279344
Reference Number



Martha's sister Maria Beavan in 1851 census?


England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

name: Maria Bolter
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 23 Nov 1806
baptism/christening place: LITTLE CHEVERELL,WILTSHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: Thos. Bolter
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C05462-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 950255


Maria's marriage:-

Groom's Name: William Biffin
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Maria Boulter
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 17 Oct 1826
Marriage Place: Little Cheverell,Wiltshire,England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M05462-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 950255
Reference Number:

Going on the possiblility that Martha didnt marry Charles' father


1841 England Census
Name: Isaac Spier
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Little Cheverell
Hundred: Swanborough
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Devizes
Sub-registration district: Lavington
Piece: 1186
Book: 3
Folio: 6
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac Spier 30 <<Ag labourer
Ann Spier 30 1811
Elizabeth Spier 11 1830
Mary Spier 8 1833
George Spier 7 1834
John Spier 3 1838



On the same census page there are 'Bolter' and 'Balter' listed


Can you give us the occupation of Isaac from the marriage certificate and also the witnesses please

From familysearch.org

Jane Bolter baptised 16th September 1838 - Little Cheverell - mother Martha

Charles Bolter baptised 30th June 1844 - Little Cheverell - mother Martha

So Martha wasn't married when she had the children.

1841 census

RG number: HO107
Piece: 1186
Book/Folio: 3/6
Page: 6
Reg. District: Devizes
Sub District: Lavington
Parish: Little Cheverell
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Little Cheverell, Little Cheverell
County: Wiltshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
BOLTER, Thomas M 60 1781 Wiltshire
BOLTER, Martha F 20 1821 Wiltshire
BOLTER, Jane F 2 1839 Wiltshire
MUNDAY, Samuel M 95 1746 Wiltshire
BAILEY, John M 20 1821 Wiltshire
ASHLEY, Jane F 25 1816 Wiltshire


possible death of Thomas (her father)

Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: BOLTER, Thomas
Registration district: Devizes
County: Wiltshire
Year of registration: 1846
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume no: 8
Page no: 248

???

Deaths Mar 1863 Bolter Martha Devizes 5a 78


May be worth finding out who Jane named as her father?

Marriages Sep 1862 Bolter Jane Devizes 5a 135
Goodall Edward Devizes 5a 135


1891

Name: Jane Goodhall
[Jane Goodall]
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward Goodhall
Gender: Female
Where born: Little Cheverell, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Little Cheverell
Ecclesiastical parish: Little Cheverell
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Devizes
Sub-registration district: Lavington
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1601
Folio: 53
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Goodhall 45
Jane Goodhall 50
James Goodhall 19
Charles Goodhall 17
Henry Goodhall 12

Thank you to everyone who contacted me with your research on Isaac Bolter. All very interesting, even though some of the info I already knew, but there were much I did not.
Sorry for not replying sooner, but since last August I have not been well and only just started to get back into the swing of most things, including family tree.
Thanking you all once again.
Kindest Regards
Rosamond. :-)

Hi Rosamond

You need to post the questions that you asked in your PM to me and then we can take it from there